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Searching for info regarding my great great Grandfather James Golding, his wife Maria (Humphris). James was a house painter and decorator. He married Maria in 1849 and their children are Maria, Elizabeth, James, Jane, William, Emily, Edwin, Sarah and Anne born between 1851 and 1864, They lived in Guiting Power, Naunton, and Bourton-on-the-Water, then 15 Keynsham St and 59 Regent St Cheltenham. My great-grandfather Jame immigrated to Australia and married Mary Ann Griffin, who was born in Cheltenham. Any information regarding the family would be greatly appreciated.

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Anne Golding-Ross
agoldingross@hotmail.com

Posted: 7 March 2010







I am researching a MEE family who lived in Cheltenham during the 1800-1840 period. RICHARD MEE was listed a 'Horse Farrier' on court documents when a son was transported to Tasmania in 1828. RICHARD was married to a ANN WALLACE in 1809 in Shurdington. Anybody out there who might be able to help?

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Posted: 3 March 2010







Dear Cheltenham4u,

I have been trying for a few years to trace specifics. I have heard that my family are descended via the first Tailor & Tailoress of cheltenham in the mid to late 1800's, but have no real concrete place for where the business premise was in cheltenham or around Charlton Kings. Do any members or readers know of any stories related to the family name of HATHAWAY or GRIFFITHS and this trade in particular? This is an important chapter in my life to tackle this particular story and surrounding events. Names or information would be great, pictures would be tremendous!

Warmest Regards

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Posted: 20 February 2010







I am researching a family connection perhaps someone may be able to help me find out more about this family. William Smith (tailor) was born in Gloucester 1820 the son of James & Ann Smith (James was a Corkcutter). William from the age of 21 lived most of his life at 1, Duke Street Cheltenham with his wife Eliza. There were four children Laura born in Cheltenham 1856, Alice, Charles (a tailor who moved to London) and Catherine, all born in Bath.

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Mike

Posted: 18 February 2010







Hi,

I have discovered that my matriarchal grandmother's family hail from Cheltenham. Although she and I come from Sussex, I now live in the Forest of Dean and have been investigating more about John Richards (approx 1928), his father William Richards (17/2/1790) and his wife Edith Morgan.

Census records show John as living at 219 High Street - I went there yesterday but afterwards wondered if the building had been renumbered and/or replaced? I also looked for grave stones but was disappointed, after finding the Memorial gardens off Market Street, to discover that the stones are no longer there. Anyone know if they are available elsewhere? I also noted that William signed his name on his marriage certificate, whereas Edith marked with a cross. I wondered if William was one of the poorer children who benefited from the School in St. Mary's Church - is that the same as the Bluecoats? Any other thoughts and info would be much appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation,

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Posted: 16 February 2010







Please can anyone tell me where Upper Montague Street was? My great aunt gave this as her address in 1939 but I have no idea where it was and can't fine it by searching online. Thanks

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Posted:11 February 2010

Hello Sheila, Historical Gazetteer of Cheltenham lists Montague Place, London Road. 6 houses on north side, west of Priory Place, i.e. present nos. 3-11 London Road. First shown on 1820 map. Includes former Montague Lawn, present nos. 5-9, so it's possible that Upper Montague Street was somewhere near there.

Jane

Posted: 12 February 2010







I am researching my family and have a relative who was visiting Cheltenham in 1922. She lists her destination as 7 Queens Parade. I would like to know who was at that residence since perhaps 1 of the family that is no longer in Canadian records could have moved there.

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Posted: 8 February 2010

Hello, 7 Queen's Parade seems to have been a lodging / boarding house in 1858 (Slater's Commercial Directory), so it's quite possible that it still served the same purpose in 1922, when your ancestors stayed there during their visit in Cheltenham.

Alice

Posted: 9 February 2010

After some research I found in 1911 there were only 3 people living at this address. The head was Julia Whatton and she died in 1919. In 1901 there was an Eliza Kelly, aged 96, at this address and she died in 1904. My question is who was on the electral role of 1922 that my relative would visit?


Posted: 16 February 2010







My mother is trying to find out about the history of the Girls' Orphanage on Winchcombe Strreet - she was there from 1942 to 1948 aged 2-7 years. Can you assist - is the building still there? She remembers a park (1p to enter) and cinema being nearby. Thanks in advance for the help.

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Posted: 29 January 2010

Hello Debbie,

The park your mother mentions must be Pittville Park and the cinema would have been the Odeon, which closed down a couple of years ago but the building is still there. It seems that the orphanage came under Holy Trinity Church. I don't think the building is still there - found this old map from 1820 which shows where the School of Industry (later to become Cheltenham Female Orphan Asylum) stood (large building in the top left hand corner).





There seem to be some records of the orphanage in Gloucestershire Archives, see here.

There is a mention of the orphanage in Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer where it is listed under Queen's Buildings:

Queen's Buildings: 14 houses off north side of High Street in Wellington Passage. 1819 map. First home of the School of Industry, later the Cheltenham Female Orphan Asylum, founded under the patronage of Queen Charlotte in 1806 (J. S. Duckworth, in TBGAS 117, p. 141) and probably so named on this account. Referred to in 1820 Paving Commissioners' Minutes (1 Mar.). Home to an 'academy' in 1826 (Bettison). Probably also accessible from Albion Street, under which it is sometimes listed (1847 directory).

Jane

Posted: 7 February 2010

I was at Cheltenham Art Gallery and Museum earlier this week and I'm pretty sure they have a painting of the orphanage and a wooden sign that used to hang outside it in their display. I may be wrong but it might be worth contacting them.


Posted: 11 February 2010







My great grandfather (see photos on Your Photos) born in 1857 in Somerset was a tailor who settled in Ivy Place, Charlton Kings, after his marriage. The story goes that he made 'hunting pink for the gentry' and I would love to know more about this as an occupation. He lived at 47 Naunton Crescent in 1901 and his son William was also a tailor. His daughter Blanche Mabel was a dressmaker at the time. She moved to Leicester on marrying my grandfather Frank Hancock who was a teacher. I have no idea how these two met and would also like to know if there are records of teacher training in Cheltenham before WWI.

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Posted: 29 January 2010







Can anyone shed any light on the SIDDALL family who lived in Cheltenham from the 1850s until relatively recently? The patriarch, William (greengrocer of Montpellier Walk) had four children, Mary Ann, William, Albert and Ernest. I am particularly keen to find out what happened to Ernest (veterinary surgeon) and his wife Edith, fomerly Wales (née Mitchell) who married in 1908.

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Posted: 29 January 2010







I am trying to find any information about an old pub called The Pilgrim which existed in Rutland Street. In the late 1800's a relative of mine was the inn keeper. I can't seem to trace any records of it at all. Many thanks for your assistance.

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John

Posted: 21 January 2010

Hello John, try this website: www.1881pubs.com.


Posted: 13 March 2010







I am looking for information with regard to two addressess in Cheltenham for the years 1881 to 1891. William Capper (Stonemason), Ivy Cottage, Upper Norwood Street, Cheltenham and Sarah Jones, 3 Portman Terrace, Cheltenham. They moved to Birmingham sometime in 1891. Thanks

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Posted: 18 January 2010

William Capper (Mason) lived in Belmore Place Cheltenham in 1882 according to the Cheltenham History Soc. and at 12 Queens Retreat in 1870-71. Williams Father was James Capper (Mason) and was named on Williams marriage cert 1861. Any info at all would be very welcome.


Posted: 12 February 2010







Looking for information on Charles Fowler (lived in Cheltenham), he founded Cheltenham General Hospital. He died in 1858, also when the Hospital was founded. Many thanks

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Posted: 16 January 2010







My grandmother, Margaret Botham (Bottom), worked as a cook for Miss Hatch at 8 Worcester Crescent from about 1900 to 1902, when she moved to St. John's Road just before her marriage. Does anyone have information about 8 Worcester Crescent or Miss Hatch at that time?

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to hear from anyone who remembers Paddy and Grace Walsh who lived at Green Street Lodge, Bushley in the 1940s. I am trying to find relatives of Patrick (Paddy) Walsh, whose parents were Kate and Richard Walsh. Paddy was born in 1912 in Midleton and emigrated to Tewkesbury, England in the mid-1930s and worked as a groom. His parents were Richard and Kate Walsh, who lived at 2, Charles Steet, Midleton.

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Posted: 4 January 2010

Hello, my name is Rowland. How come come you to know about Patrick? And how come you relate to this family.


Posted: 25 January 2010







I would like to hear from the descendants of Henry Bottom (born in 1888 in English Bicknor) from Bosbury and Smethwick. His father was Thomas Bottom and his mother was Sarah (nee Price). I am also trying to trace the burial place of Sarah Bottom (nee Price), who was the second wife of my great-grandfather Thomas Bottom. They lived at Grange Farm near Bosbury 1896 to 1913. She may have moved to Kings Norton to be near her daughter Rhoda Hadley.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I am trying to trace the descendants of Sarah (nee Bottom) and John Hammonds who were married in Bosbury in Herefordshire in 1905.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to find out more information about my great-grandmother, Margaret Morgan, from Bleddfa. She was born in 1846 to John Morgan b.1813 d.1846 and Sarah (nee Stokes) b.1815. Margaret's brother was William b.1843. She married my great-grandfather, Thomas Bottom, at the Primitive Methodist Chapel at Cwm-y-Gaist in 1871 and they settled in Herefordshire.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to hear from descendants of Rhoda Harriet Hadley (nee Bottom), who married James William Hadley in Bosbury in 1914. They lived in Kings Norton for much of their life.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to trace the ancestors of my great-great grandmother, Mary Ann Barnett b.1826 in Ashton under Hill. Her parents were John Barnett (Barnard) b.1791 in Greet and Mary Holder b.1796 in Ashton under Hill.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







Does anyone have a photograph of (or information about) the railway cottages that used to stand near Ashchurch railway station (on the road to Northway)? My grandfather, Tom Barnett, (who was head signalman at the station) and his family lived in them from 1911 to 1928.

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Posted: 4 January 2010


There are still some cottages by the railway line at Ashchurch. They are behind the church and have to be reached on foot. I'm not sure if these are the ones you are asking about.


Posted: 12 February 2010







My great grandfather James White (shoe maker) was born in 1842 in Great Hampton, Worcestershire. He fathered two children born in Cheltenham - Gertrude Amelia, born in 1870, and Harriet L, born in 1872. I can find no record for Gertrude in the 1871 census. He also fathered another daughter Frances C M in 1867, born in Richmond, Surrey, then I think he fathered my illegitimate grandfather Cornelius in 1884. I am looking for any information regarding Gertrude and Harriet, both born in Cheltenham please.

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Sally Greaves
mpgshire@aol.com

Posted: 3 January 2010







I am trying to track down 1 Cleeveland Boulevard which was the last address I have for Great Great Grandmother, Jane Grinnell in the 1901 Census. I presume it was near Cleeveland Street but don't know. If anyone knows anything of this location or has any old pics or map extracts that would be very helpful please.

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Posted: 30 December 2009







Hello, I am trying to obtain a copy from the page of the Cheltenham College register for 1841-1889 where I believe there is a mention of a Conyngham Jones who was a Sandhurst army officer and later served in the Indian Mutiny and his father is named as Henry Shawe Jones. I would also be interested to learn of any other details about him or his family as this would really help me in the family history research.

Thank you

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S. Patterson

Posted: 15 December 2009







Looking for anyone who has any additional information relating to William Cull, a Cheltenham tailor. Born around 1807, married Emma Lyze 1833, Swindon Village. Lived Bishops Cleeve, possibly Woodmancote in 1841 and afterwards Cheltenham, Duke St 1851, Stanhope St 1861, Hamilton Place 1871 and White Hart 1881. Died 1882 in the Union Workhouse. Had three criminal convictions: 1831 committed to Northleach, 1854 Committed to Glos Gaol, 1857 committed to Glos jail, later moved to Millbank and Dartmoor. Had nine children before Emma's death in 1852.

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Posted: 28 November 2009

David, Checking the England & Wales Criminal Register on ancestry.co.uk, there only appears to be one Walter Cull convicted 24th October 1870 at Birmingham, Warwickshire assizes. He received seven years. If it is your man, which seems likely, he may have been sent directly to Millbank, or maybe he was tranferred to that establishment from a more local jail as was often the case. The records for admissions to Millbank are available at the National Archives and will give some additional information on Walter and whether he served his full sentence there or transfered on. The assize records should also be traceable but I am not sure where they will be. Possibly also at Kew.

On another note, Walter's father William, married to Jemima, was a carpenter and is almost certainly the gentlemen mentioned in 'Cheltenham Spa and the Berkelys 1832 -1848: Pocket Borough and Patron" by Adrian Courtney. It is about electoral corruption in Cheltenham and page 101 and 102 rather amusingly describes how William took advantage of the system to acquire additional income as well as several free meals and alcoholic refreshment. Incidently I think the address given may be wrong and I suspect he was living or working at 250 High street not 254. He was probably related to Henry Cull, the baker and his mother Mary. A link for the pdf document is: www.midlandhistory.bham.ac.uk/issues/1992/courtea.pdf


Posted: 29 November 2009







Hello.

I am interested in tracing Mary Jones b. approx. 1818 in Leckhampton, father Joseph, shoemaker. She married Charles Arnold Goldin in July 1844 in "The Parish Church, Leckhampton". A son George Arnold Goldin was born in 1848. Another son, also George Arnold Goldin was born in 1852. Presumably the first boy had died.

My quandery is, did the latter George Arnold Goldin, put Frederick in front of his first name, George? I ask this because for the last ten years I have been unable to find a Frederick George Arnold GOLDING born anywhere at all. This man is my gr.grandfather, and it is reasonable to think that the spelling of the surname had changed a bit due to possible lack of being able to read.

I have Frdk. G. A. Golding's marriage certificate though, he's living in London, and it states that he was born in Cheltenham. Any thoughts would be really appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 27 November 2009







I think I have gone as far as I can with my research on the Cypher family in Cheltenham but would love to hear from any members of this family in case it gives me some more information that I can work with. Any photos of the Cypher Nurseries in Queens Road would also be most appreciated.

Many thanks

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Posted: 26 November 2009







Hi, I am hoping someone will be able to help or advise me. I have found out that my Great Great Grandfather Frederick William Haines was adopted. He was born in 1873. In the 1881 census he was noted as adopted by John and Jane Haines (John was born in Cheltenham and Jane from Gloucester). They lived in Cheltenham with Frederick Haines.

In the 1881 census the birth place of Frederick William Haines was London, Middlesex. But in the 1891 census his birth place was Croydon, Surrey. I have order numerous birth certificates but have not found any information.

John Haines's occupation was a local Painter. He was born in 1842 and Jane (maiden name was Keen) was born in 1843. I am hoping that there is some information about the Haines Family. I am hoping someone had written a book about the local history and might have mentioned something about the family. Maybe there was something in the local newspaper about the adoption or the family. Maybe there was a story of a single women in the area who went to London to give birth to a baby boy?

I am just looking for any information about my great great grandfathers adoption and any leads on why he was put up for adoption. Would this information exist? Can you advise me where else to look? Or should I give up on trying to finding information on the adoption or the family?

Thanks

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Rhian

Posted: 18 November 2009

Posted: 12 October 2009

Not sure if it is of any help but there was a family called Haines living in Rowanfield Road, Cheltenham. The one I knew used to keep a newsagents stall on Lansdown Station. His name was Lesley Haines and I believe he lived alone with his brother. This would have been in the 1950s I think, he would have been aged about 45 / 55 at that time, it's difficult to tell as I was just a paper boy then.


Posted: 1 December 2009







I am interested in any families with name DEAN living in Cheltenham before 1860. My GGGrandfather Giles Dean was married in Cheltenham to a Hannah Webber in 1833. He was a whitesmith in the 1851 Census. Moved to Manchester 1853/4.

Cheers

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Posted: 10 November 2009







Gday, I have in my posession a Ladies book of Friendship. Her name was Miss Hurst and she resided at The Ladies College in Bath Road. (1866) There are many entries here and they are all hand written. Many are drawings by James Loveday, 1865 and others are by Sprague, 1866. The book contains photographs of John Bryant of St. Luke's Boys School? I believe Miss Hurst would have been either a student or a teacher. I would dearly love someone to help me with the intruiging mysteries of this beautiful book and I am willing to Attach downloads to help with any investigations. I have sent a few emails to the schools but have no reply which I think is rather sad. So I will keep my fingers crossed and hope you can help me.

Many thanks to you all.

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Posted: 30 October 2009







Patricia Mary Hewitt was the name given to me by my mother Helena May Hewitt from Cheltenham - born 1913. I was born in 1946 in Bristol. Does anyone have any information about my mother or her family - Hewitt and Waghorne? My name now is Marian Boughton.

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Patricia Mary Hewitt
m.boughton@tiscali.co.uk

Posted: 20 October 2009







I live in Cornwall and I am following up relatives of my wife. In 1881 a relative was at Stamford House. As there were numerous male boarders I wonder whether it was an instution. My interest is Benjamin Hawken, aged about 23. I have tried doing a direct search without sucess.

Thanks

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Ray

Posted: 12 October 2009

The young men at Stamford House in the 1881 census are "live in" drapery assistants employed by "Debenham & Hewitt". Female shop assistants were also housed in the same manner by their employers. Debenham & Hewitt exhibited Furniture in 1883 at the Agricultural Hall. Their main premises, with a warehouse, were numbers 62/63 Regent Street, Cheltenham, near to County Court Road, and now part of Cavendish House. Stamford House stood further along Regent Street, the site is now the entrance/exit to the Regent Arcade car park.


Posted: 20 October 2009







Hello, I'm searching for the boarding nursery [school] I was sent in 1944 - I was 3 yrs old - in Cheltenham. How would I find this? Are there old directories? I think the name was M[H[um[n]fries/Munford/Montford. Not much to go on, but I think my half brother was also there and I'm searching for him.

Regards

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Julie

Posted: 27 September 2009







I'm looking for more information about the Tanner family and can only trace back to my great grandparents - Arthur John Tanner 1876 - 1955 and Georgina (?) 1881 - 1939. They lived in 6 Edward Street Leckhampton in 1911 but later moved to Naunton Crescent. They had 7 daughters May, Daisy, Blanche, Jessica, Violet, Dorothy and Beatrice. I would love to know more about Georgina - there is a family tale that she grew up in Cranham.

Thanks

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Sally Prosser

Posted: 17 September 2009







I'm a Cheltonian living in the Middle East at present, so my research is all online at the moment. I am researching my Grandfather's family. Alphonse de Van Meulbrouck (born about 1847) was from Roubaix, France. I'm not sure when he arrived in UK but his wife Elenor was from Worcester. They ran a common lodging house on Grove Street (nos 2 & 4). Their son Alphonse Meulbrouck (the de van started to disappear in some records) born in about 1876 married Edith Jane (from Cheltenham) in 1896 and also ran a common lodging house Cumberland Villas, Grove Street. I am interested in any photos of the street prior to 1920 as many of the houses were demolished. Any information especially about their spouses would be great.

Thanks

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Sally Prosser

Posted: 15 September 2009

Hi, I would be pleased if you could contact me.

Thanks, Ted.

Edouard J Meulbrouck
eddie-lily29@hotmail.com

Posted: 9 November 2009

Hi, I had sent you a email to your (I believe) email address but it has returned. I do hope you receive this one. If it is alright with you, I will email you with I hope more infomation.


Posted: 13 November 2009

Hi Ted, Have resent my e-mail address to you. Hope it works. Cheers

Sally

Posted: 14 November 2009







Louisa Little (known as Mary) married my great-grandfather Charles Cook. Her mother Frances Cross (c.1820-1848) is known to be married to James Little b. in Cheltenham 1812, a plasterer. However, I cannot trace Frances' birth or her marriage to James (thought to be 1842-3). The family believe that the Crosses had a musical background. Also there is a family tale that Frances was the offspring of a French noble family (De Croy or Du Cros) who escaped France from either the French Revolution or the Napoleonic Wars. Certainly, my ancestors all spoke a smattering of very good French despite their occasional impoverishment. Where did this come from? Louisa's husband, Charles, was one of the younger Cook siblings of that very large family of market gardeners who owned and operated in Alstone and Little Swindon for nearly two hunded years. I should be grateful for any help in finding more about Frances and would welcome information, stories, photos of the Cook Family.

Thank you.

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Posted: 15 September 2009







My family include the Hailing(s) or Hayling(s), lots of whom were from Cheltenham. My gg uncle was Thomas HAILING who lived with his large family at Bromland (or Broomland) House, Oxford Passage, Cheltenham. He was apprenticed to Thomas WILLEY a well known local figure and chartist who lived there before him. Thomas WILLEY was born in Bristol c.1795 and died in 1861. The HAILING name was also spelt HAYLING and several of the male Haylings were boot/shoemakers and cordwainers in Cheltenham. I've never visited the town but would love to know whether Bromland House and Oxford Passage is still standing. Perhaps even to see a photograph. I believe the printing business survived until 1956.

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Posted: 12 September 2009







I am just starting the search for my ancestors, who seem to have derived from Cheltenham. I have got as far as George Ellis, who married an Ann - poss Humphriss in 1841. He was a painter and glazier, which I discovered on this site. I am now looking for his father and above, which is proving difficult as earlier than records online - can anyone help?

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Posted: 28 August 2009

Hi Gill, possible baptism for George Ellis is on IGI - 04 APR 1817 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England. Father Robert Ellis, mother Sarah.

Hope this helps.

Alice

Posted: 22 August 2009







Hi, I am trying to find more info on my grandfather's wood yard that he had before the First World War, it was situated in Milsom St. He used to take wood around by horse and cart. My mum used to work there chopping wood into small bundles for kindling. The family name was Regan's.

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Posted: 22 August 2009







Does anyone have or know where I can get any information about the workhouse which I think was in the St.Pauls area in Cheltenham. My relatives were there in 1948!

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Posted: 20 August 2009

Hi, if you Google Union Workhouse Cheltenham you should find some details about it, my G.G.Uncle and his wife was there between 1885 & 1901. Good luck


Posted: 22 August 2009

The site is now occupied by the 'St. Paul's Medical Centre. The only original building remaining from the workhouse days is the Chapel which are used as offices.


Posted: 28 November 2009







I am trying to trace my family tree with limited information. My grandfather's name was Alfred or Alfie Morris and his wife was Ethel. I know this was Ethel's second marriage and that she had at least two children before she met my grandfather. They lived and died in Pates Ave. They had four children together Derek, David, Janet, and Esme. Any information about Alfie or Ethel would be appreciated.

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Posted: 13 August 2009

It would help if you added dates and places of research. Probably there are many of us on this list that have access to research tools, but need more info than just names to do a look up.


Posted: 13 September 2009







Does anybody have any information or photographs of 14 Sun Street and 31 Sun Street from the 1860s? My ancestors lived there in 1861. Many thanks

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Posted: 12 August 2009







I recently discovered that one of my great-grandfather's brothers, called Sampson Newman, died in Cheltenham in 1926. At the time of his death, he was living at 1 Pittville Lawn, which I understand was - and possibly still is - a very prestigious address. I wonder, therefore, whether he might have been a well-known citizen of the town (although I rather doubt this, as he was described as a retired metal polish salesman on his death certificate). I would be extremely grateful for any information - either on this address or on my ancestor.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

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Jonathan Newman
primpark@ntlworld.com

Posted: 10 August 2009

Hi Jonathan,

In Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858/9, Nobility, Gentry & Clergy section it lists Newman Edward Lambert, Esq., living at 1 Pittville lawn. It might be just a coincidence but it's possible that there is some connection with Sampson.

Alice

Posted: 11 August 2009

Hi Jonathan,

I was interested to read your post as it mentioned the name Newman. I am researching my family history, Taylor, and found that my great great great grandfather was the illegitimate son of Margaret Taylor and John Newman. Seems for some reason William ended up with his mother's surname rather than his father's. I wonder if you have come across John Newman of Gloucestershire in your research?

Regards

Caroline

Posted: 11 August 2009

Hi Alice and Caroline,

Thanks for your replies. I'm almost sure that William Lambert and John were not members of my family. In fact, my family has had no previous connection to Cheltenham - apart from Sampson. He was born in Dudley, so I have no idea how he ended up in Cheltenham. I suppose it's possible that this Sampson was not a member of my family, but his wife's name was Janet - the same as my relative's - so I think it's unlikely that there could be two Sampson and Janet Newmans. Also, when he died - in 1926 - his age was given as 73. He was actually 72, but this is close enough to make me think that the man who died at 1 Pittville Lawn was my relative.

Thanks again for your help.


Posted: 12 August 2009







I am looking for any information on my great uncle William Mason, I believe he had a coal and wood business in Charlton Kings, he ran the business with his son. His father, mother and sister are all buried in St. Mary's church, they all once lived in Laurel Villa, overlooking the church.

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Posted: 8 August 2009







I am looking for any information regarding The Broom family. Samuel (1855) used to be with fire brigade believe they lived in King Street, Cheltenham, married Louisa Carter from Tewksbury Road in 1874. Any info on this family, their children, or siblings would be great. Also looking for anything on Lilian Holt (1885) who married Samuel's son Francis on 15 April 1911.

Many thanks

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Posted: 3 August 2009







Hi, my paternal great grand father Alfred John Mason lived in Laurel Villa on Horesfair road opposite St Mary's church, he died in 1946. He had a son called William Alfred Mason who ran a coal business in the Charlton Kings area. Has anyone got any information or photos?

Thank you

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Posted: 2 August 2009







My paternal grandfather, Robert William Wallis, worked for Cheltenham Gas Company in the 1940s. Does anyone have any ideas about how I could find out a bit more about what he would have done, his qualifications, etc. Any tips would be much appreciated.

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Bod Harris

Posted: 31 July 2009

Cheltenham Gas Company employed a great many men in various trades. What does his death certificate give for his occupation?


Posted: 16 August 2009


I would be grateful for any information about the Gas Co. My mother worked there in the offices in North Street in the 1940's.


Posted: 25 August 2009







I am trying to identify the origins of our surname and our family tree as there are very few of us in the UK & Ireland. There appears to be some form of a link to Cheltenhan in Gloucestershire due to it being the only place in the country where there is a Tatchley House and Tatchley Lane. Can anyone tell me anything else about the origins of our name of how Tatchley House and Tatchley Lane came to be named as such?

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Tanya Tatchley

Posted: 30 July 2009

Hi Tanya,

Historical Gazetteer of Cheltenham has this entry regarding Tatchley place names in Cheltenham:

Tatchley Lane, Prestbury. Eastern end of New Barn Lane, from Burgage to roundabout; 1884 map, and doubtless earlier. Earliest reference to a settlement here is 1686: 'my house in Tacheley' (will; personal communication Mrs Beryl Elliott); apparent variant Tott's Low seen in Civil War period, and in 1767 rendered as Tacklow (pc BE).

T(h)atchley Villa is listed in Prestbury Road in 1837 and 1839 directories. Tatchley Villas, Prestbury. No. 3 noted in 1844 directory. Now nos. 326-30 Prestbury Road (Cheltenham Local History Society Journal 16, p. 47).

Hope this helps.

Jane

Posted: 31 July 2009







I am looking for information on Herbert George Mason (my grandfather) who lived in Vine Cottage, Charlton Kings with his mother father 3 brothers and 1 sister in 1911. I believe one brother Frederick Horace Mason had a lot to do with the church in Charlton Kings. I am just starting out and would be grateful of any help. Thank you.

Best regards

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Posted: 30 July 2009

Contact me on my private email charles.callvert@gmail.com and will enlighten you more about that.


Posted: 16 February 2010







I am researching Margaret Mackay, who died at 36 Montpellier Terrace on 5 January 1887. Was there a hotel at that address on that date? If so, what was its name? Any further information about Mrs. Mackay appreciated.

Thank you very much.

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Marylin

Posted: 26 July 2009

Most probably this was a "lodging house" of which Cheltenham had many. Rooms were let either singly or as a suite.


Posted: 20 October 2009







Hi Through researching my family tree I have repeatedly heard a story about one of my ancestors being mayor of cheltenham for a time. I wonder if anyone has any information or useful links on past mayors? My earliest relative is a Thomas Robertson who hails from Cheltenham but he was a carpenter!!

Thanks

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Posted: 23 July 2009

Hi Brett,

you can find a list of past Cheltenham Mayors at www.trase.co.uk/cheltold/mayors.htm

Alice

Posted: 24 July 2009







My dad, Robert Greeves Raymond Wallis, worked as an aircraft fitter during WW2 somewhere in the Cheltenham area. My sister believes the factory was called Dowty's. Can anyone tell me any more about this?

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Posted: 18 July 2009

Here is a website about George Dowty who was the founder of the company www.spiritus-temporis.com/george-dowty


Posted: 30 June 2009

Here is an article Dowty, The First 50 Years — A Golden Review 1931–1981 www.emeraldinsight.com


Posted: 30 October 2009







Hi, I'm looking for any information/photos on a dairy at 5 Gloucester Road in 1891. One of my ancestors, Thomas Austin, was a dairyman there in 1891, it's hard to make out from the census, but the dairy may have been known as "Honeyville Dairy".

Many thanks

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Posted: 7 July 2009







Looking for information on the family of Rev. James Taylor and Eliza Odella nee Curran (daughter of John Philpot Curran) They lived at St Albans House Cheltenham, for many years incumbent of Clifton. I have death notice of Eliza.

Thanks

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Posted: 7 July 2009







I am researching my family history of the Bridgman family who moved to Cheltenham/Chartlon Kings area around 1810 from Mortonhampstead in Devon. Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: 30 June 2009







I have ancestors who lived at Number 3 Trinity Terrace in Cheltenham. Can anyone tell me the exact location of this address, I cannot seem to find it on Google Earth or any maps.

Thanks

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Brian

Posted: 27 June 2009

Numbers 1 to 6 Trinity Terrace is in Portland Street, the terrace of houses run from the Pittville side of Trinity Church, to the the footpath which runs from Portland Street to Winchcombe Street. Many years ago the houses were numbered, and No. 3 Trinity Terrace was then numbered 51 Portland Street.


Posted: 30 June 2009







I would appreciate some help on discovering information about my great-great-great-grandmother, Jane Hooper, born in Cheltenham about 1793. (She married a John Barnard about 1819, and had three sons, including my great-great-grandfather, William Hooper Barnard who immigrated to New Zealand.) I have spent many days at the LDS library in Salt Lake City and months searching the internet. Apart from census information, I know nothing about her. Any information appreciated.

Thank you so much.

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Judith Meyer nee Barnard

Posted: 25 June 2009







Hello, I'm doing some family history research and have found a lot of relatives from Cheltenham. In 1871, my great great grandparents lived in Kew Place. The census shows that most of the women in that area were laundresses, or in one case, an ironer. I wondered if anyone knew whether there was a laundry or perhaps hotel or large establishment in that area, that they may have worked for, at that time?

Thank you for your help.

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Sue Bowyer

Posted: 23 June 2009







Hi, any info on Harriet Phillips parents. Harriet would have been born about 1846 in Cheltenham according to the census. She married Thomas Surman, I would be grateful for any help.

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Wendy

Posted: 22 June 2009







Hi, I am looking for any information on the Poytress family and Surman family, of Cheltenham.

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Wendy

Posted: 12 June 2009

Wendy, please contact me with more details and I am sure I can help you.


Posted: 11 August 2009







Advice please on a simple entry, bishops transcripts Cheltenham, 21.12.1803 William son of Willm and Mary Hays. Any suggestions as to how I might possibly get behind that entry, or even in front: Rate books, employment, or whatever. The younger William turned up in Kendal 1832. I have not been able to trace his parents or anything else up till then, or any trace whatsoever of his parents.

Many thanks

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Posted: 7 June 2009







Walter Morris Cull was born in Cheltenham in 1852. In the 1861 census he is at home with his parents William b. 1821/2 and Jemima (nee Wells) b. 1820/1. In the 1871 census he appears to be a convict in Millbank prison, London. His profession is noted as "Printer, compositor". I have been unable to find any trace of him after that census despite checking Censuses, Marriage, Death registrations and even passenger/emigration records. I would love to discover where he offended, what his crime/sentence was and whatever became of him. If anyone reading this has access to Gloucestershire court records for that period then I would be most grateful if they could take a look to see if there is any record relating to him.

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David

Posted: 5 June 2009







My grandfather came to Cheltenham, to a convalescent home run by Courtaulds Textiles. It no longer exists. Does any one know where it was ? He came sometime between 1950 and 1960.

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Posted: 28 May 2009

Hello Kerry,

Courtaulds Convalescent Home was situated at Cleeve Hill. It was built in 1892-93, in connection with Cheltenham General Hospital when it was called The Cotswold Convalescent Home. It was bought by Courtaulds Ltd. for use as a private home in c.1920, and was still in use in 1939. The records for the home are deposited in Gloucestershire Archives in Gloucester. A photo of Courtaulds Convalescent Home taken about 1960 is available from Francis Frith collection.





Alice

Posted: 29 May 2009







I was recently looking through some old family trinkets and coins and found a token coin value one penny, on the reverse side is written a pound note for 240 tokens given by John Bishop & Co. Cheltenham dated 1812. As my Great grandfather's family lived around that area, I was intrested to know of the history. Any help appreciated.

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Martin Page

Posted: 21 May 2009







I have information on Wilkins family of Cheltenham, one of whom, Charles James, emigrated to New Zealand in 1873. His father was John Wilkins, a school master at Fair View infants school and his grandfather William is listed in the 1841 census as occupation w(h)arfinger, living at Tram Road Wharf, Cheltenham. Was there a wharf in Cheltenham and if so where was it? It is not on any maps I have viewed.

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Posted: 18 May 2009

Hello Roger,

There were several wharves in Cheltenham, along the Gloucester to Cheltenham Railroad where stone was unloaded from the tram, stored and worked on. One was in what is now Painswick Road, which was the main stone depot in the 1820s-30s on the railroad down from Leckhampton quarry, a coal wharf was in the lower High Street where the Leckhampton railroad was joining the railroad to Gloucester, another stone wharf was then in Gloucester Road (near today's Stoneville Street). You need to have a look at the census which streets were in the vicinity to determine which wharf it was.

Hope this helps.

Allan

Posted: 19 May 2009

Hello Allan,

Thank you for your kind reply. What I hadn't considered was that the term "wharf" could be applied to railroad loading/unloading points. I had always thought of it as referring to waterborne cargo only. I've learn't something. I will also check adjoining addresses to get a clearer picture of this location as you suggest.

Kind regards,


Posted: 23 May 2009







Was Mill St. in Prestbury called Mill Lane in 1919?

Thanks

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Kim

Posted: 14 May 2009

Hi Kim,

Some of my ancestors came from Mill Lane and Mill Street, Prestbury. Mill Street was in the village of Prestbury and as it went up the hill it became Mill Lane. It's still there now. Hope it helps


Posted: 19 May 2009

Thank you for your reply. I asked the question because I was reading an article about the Pass family living in Ivy Cottage on Mill Lane, Prestbury in 1919. I know the area because my wife's uncle lives in Ivy Cottage on Mill Street today. I didn't know of an Ivy Cottage on Mill Lane so I was thinking it may be the same cottage.

Thank you again

Kim

Posted: 19 May 2009







I am trying to trace any members of the SOLLORS family, in particular my GG Grandfather Walter SOLLORS, born 19 Dec 1876. He married Agnes Mary SOLLORS, born 12 Feb 1869, died on 22 Dec 1906. They lived at 8 Cleveland Buildings, Cleveland Street, St. Peter's up til about 1908 when my Grandfather Ewart Walter Sollars (he changed the spelling) was born on 12 April 1908. His mother was still living at the address according to the 1911 cenusus but I can find no mention of his father Walter after this but have been able to find out he died in Birmingham on 3 Aug 1958. My grandfather was brought up by someone we only know as 'Granny Little' who owned a shop on Swindon Road, Cheltenham. My Grandfather worked when he left school for a wine merchants called Martins before moving to Essex. Any information anyone has on this would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 14 May 2009

In 1927 Kelly's Street Directory there is Henry Little, grocer at 7 Swindon Terrace, Swindon Road, this is on the corner with Baker Street, which is the next street to Cleeveland Street. The shop is now renumbered 156 Swindon Road. Also, in 1927 living at No. 8 Cleeveland Buildings is Harry J. Little. No Sollors living in Cheltenham in that directory.


Posted: 24 May 2009







Researching the Newman Family in and around Prestbury. Would like to hear from anyone researching the same name.

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Sandie Newman
sanjons@msn.com

Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Sandie,

There are a few of us researching this family. The lot I am interested in come from Longdon in Worcestershire. They seem to have moved to the Longdon / Eldersfield / Forthampton area when Robert Newman bought Forthampton House from the Earl of Dorset in 1679. Drop me a line and perhaps we can work out where you fit in.

Cheers


Posted: 11 December 2009







I am trying to gain information about the Company H.H.Martyn's of Cheltenham; my grandfather - Samuel Henry PARKER (often reversed the first names) moved from Devon to work for them sometime between 1899 and 1901. The family then removed to London to enable Henry to work on War Memorials from 1918. He died in 1918 from the flu epidemic. The family then moved back to Cheltenham - to 45, Arle drive, Cheltenham. I am interested in all aspects of this including any photos with named people. I should add I have Cheltenham in Old Photos - Vol 2 featuring Martyn's and also the published "biography" of Martyn's - no help for my search.

Many thanks

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Posted: 21 Apr 2009

Hello Jackie,

I'm not sure whether you have this photo. It's from Images of England - Cheltenham Volume II. The caption says that the photo is believed to be staff of HHMartyn & Co. at the Sunningend Works, Lansdown, third left bottom row Mr. Bliss.



Jane

Posted: 27 Apr 2009

There is a very large informative book on the work of H. H. Martyn & Co published in 1998 by Promenade Publications, Cheltenham, entitled "The Best" by John Whitaker ISBN No. 0 9529382 1 9 Webmaster - I will also reply personally & do a "look-up for them.


Posted: 5 May 2009







Hi, I have a Thomas Barnett, born in Bishop Cleeve 1785-1791 and would like to know if anyone has any details of this family?

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Dawn

Posted: 19 Apr 2009

If you send me your email I will forward on to a Mr P. Barrett of Norwich who has just found a Mr William hh Barrett, born in Norwich who was a drill instructor. He has all the details, there may be a link. I also have some Barrett/s from Shudy Camps, Cambridge.

Regards


Posted: 17 October 2009







I am looking for information about my ancestor Amy NASH who I believe was christened in Charlton Kings, 29/1/1837, parents Richard and Maria NASH. Amy married John Ball CURREY in 1857 in Toxteth Park, Lancaster. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Judy Thompson, NSW, Australia
thomptrees@bigpond.com

Posted: 19 Apr 2009







Hello!

First off, I must say what a fantastic site and very helpful!

I am researching my family tree and have found reference in the 1841 census that they lived in Fairveiw St, Cheltenham, in the district of Cheltenham Union. However on this site I see he lived at 6 Orchard St as well.

Charles Humphreys (Chairmaker) born 1791,
Wife Mary born also in 1791.
Children: Charles and Sarah both aged 25, Louisa aged 16 and George aged 14 and Charlotte aged 11.

However there is also a Mary Ann Bush and a little Charles aged 1. I am assuming Charles, aged 25 was the father of little Charles. I have been trying to obtain a number in Fairveiw St so I might get a picture of whatever is there now, as well as Orchard St.

Also if there are any relatives out there still in Cheltenham, I would love to hear from them.

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Mark Humphreys, Tasmania
thehumphreys@gmail.com

Posted: 17 Apr 2009







I am trying to establish if any old photographs exist of the Doxsey Coachbuilding/Coachpainting families that lived in Cheltenham in the 19th century. I have a reasonable amount of knowledge of the family tree but would very much like to locate related photos, ideally with a view to copying/purchasing. The main families were Andrew (born 1816 Prestbury), his son Andrew Robert (born 1841 London) and his son Andrew Robert (born 1875 Cheltenham). They operated from St. Georges St and St. Georges Place, Cheltenham. Any leads/suggestions gratefully received.

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Roland Doxsey
radoxsey@talktalk.net

Posted: 11 Apr 2009

Hi, I am sorry I don't have photographs of Doxsey Coachbuilders. This family however is part of my tree, I have details back to 1714. It is interesting that one generation is caochbuilder/painters although in different areas, even Australia. Would like to exchange notes.

E. Davis

Posted: 16 August 2009

Hi,

Thank you very much for your response, very happy to explore mutual interest, my email is radoxsey@talktalk.net so suggest you contact me direct. Look forward to hearing from you. (sorry for delay, have been away).

Regards

Roland Doxsey
radoxsey@talktalk.net

Posted: 21 August 2009







Could anyone out there help. I am looking for info on George Grizzell, the father of one of my ancestors. I know he lived in Kemerton in 1848.

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Mollie Cross

Posted: 4 Apr 2009

Hello Mollie,

1851 census:
George Grizzell b.1815 Kemerton, Gloucestershire
Haanah Grizzell b. 1815 Bredon
James C Grizzell b. 1850 Kemerton, Gloucestershire

There is a death of a James Clement Grizzell 1852 in the Tewkesbury district.

In the 1861 census only George and Hannah are living in Kemerton. George and Hannah appear in 1871 census age 57 and 56. George died in 1874 and Haanah died in 1875 age 61 in the Tewkesbury district


Posted: 13 Apr 2009

Hi Mollie,

Your George Grizzel is the descendant of the cordwainer, John Grizzel of Alderton. John was born abt 1715, location unknown. He married Elizabeth Wood in Bishops Cleeve in April of 1740. Their first child, Elizabeth was born in Bishops Cleeve shortly thereafter (baptised in Sept 1740). The family then moved on to Alderton, where John and Elizabeth had another 10 children, every two years almost on the dot. Their second born child, John (1742, baptised 13 Sept) is George's line. John married his first wife, Mary Millington in Alderton in 1763. John and Mary had three children, only two lived and their fates are unknown. Mary died less than a month after the baptism of their third son, James in 1769. John remarried in 1772 to Mary Kent in Kings Stanley. John and the new Mary lived or moved to Kemerton, where John was also a cordwainer, like his father and many of his brothers. John and Mary (Kent) had 5 children: Charles (1773), Bettey (1775), John (1776), Mary (1782), and James (1785). James married Jane Reeve in 1808 (23 April) at St. Nicholas Church in Kemerton. Your George was born in 1813 and baptised on 25 April 1813 at St. Nicholas Church. I have records from Kemerton for only one other son, William born in 1809. Jane died in 1816. James remarried in 1818 to Ann Booth in Kemerton. The Grizzel family were shoemakers and in Kemerton, they lived on Church Street near the old mill, the ruins of which are still found behind St. Nicholas Church. I am also very interested in this family, as my line comes down from James's brother, John. I would love to know more about your George and his family.

Hope you find this interesting.


Posted: 23 Jun 2009







Bruce Margrett is a member 461 of the Guild of One Name Studies (since 1984), researching all traces of the family name MARGRETT(S) which has more than 30 varient and devient spellings. Not to be confused (generally) with MARGETTS for which other 'GOONS' members are researching. Card index of over 2500 traces. Many of the ancestors come from Cheltenham and and Gloucestershire generally. All enquiries answered.

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Posted: 28 Mar 2009







Establishing a family tree and need details on relatives and descendants of JOSEPH JAMES BOOY born Cheltenham 1902 later moved to Glamorgan Wales early 1900's. Your input will be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 20 Mar 2009







Hi, trying to find the parents of Elizabeth Bean. I think her family may have come from Gloucestershire because she went there to marry and then returned to live in Surrey after the wedding. She married 19 Nov 1832 at Charlton Kings, Gloucester to James Wilson. Does anybody have access to these records and can see if her parents are mentioned on the marriage entry. Are there other Bean people living in Gloucester around this time who could be her parents or siblings? According to the census returns, she herself was born in Surrey so that just confuses the issue. Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: 18 Mar 2009







Could you please anyone tell me if Middle Street still exist in Bishops Cleeve. This is were my wife's GGGrand father lived as a farmer of 20 acers, his name was William Taylor James.

Thank you

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James Mackay

Posted: 16 Mar 2009







Is any one researching the Little family of Leckampton/Cheltenham. I have few brick walls which I would love to knock down. I am looking for info on a James Little, born 1811 in Cheltenham, he married Mary/Marie and had a daughter Louisa who married a Charles Cook. Thanks for any help.

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Posted: 15 Mar 2009

Hi, I have 'Little' in my family tree mostly born in Badgeworth. Patience Little 1873, John Little 1840, William Little 1809. I am not sure if we have any links.

Thanks


Posted: 1 Jun 2009







We are trying to find the origins of William Cooper, who was born in Tewkesbury in about 1855. We have not found an exact match for his birth and he does not appear to have been baptised. He married Hannah Elizabeth Juggins in Gloucester in Oct 1875 when they were both under age and had two sons: Arthur William and Herbert Sydney. In 1881 they were living in Birdlip cottages, Cheltenham. Hope someone can help

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Posted: 12 Mar 2009







Trying find any information on a Thomas Adderley born around 1813 & married to ?Eliza Newman? He was a timber merchant living in Bath Parade I think. He disappears after the 1841 census, I can find no record of his death or burial (or their marriage for that matter!). Eliza and her children subsequently moved to Windsor and then London.

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Posted: 5 Mar 2009

Hello,

Thomas Adderley appears in Harper's Cheltenham Directory & Guide from 1844:
Adderley Thomas, timber merchant, 4 Bath parade


Jane

Posted: 10 Mar 2009







I would be grateful for any info on the Messenger family. Charles Messenger was my g g g grandad and he was a shoemaker and his address was 30 Manchester Place, Cheltenham on one of the census, but on another it gives 30 Manchester Walk. He had four children, one being George Messenger, my g g grandad. He moved to Redditch and started his own shoe shop. He had 10 children, with Frank being my g grandad. I have loads of info on the Redditch side of the Messenger family, but need more on the Cheltenham side. Can any one help?

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Posted: 2 Mar 2009

Hello John,

There is Chas Messenger in Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858/9 listed under Boot and Shoe Makers, living at 30 Manchester walk. According to Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer Manchester Place was a terrace of 3 houses in Manchester Street or Walk. Manchester Walk was originally an alley about 3ft wide.

Hope this helps.

Alice

Posted: 8 Mar 2009







I'd be grateful for any info relating to the family of Thomas Warner, born about 1807, who in the mid 1800's had a butcher's shop at 346 High Street, Cheltenham. He had numerous children with his wife, Sarah, one of whom was my great, great grandfather, Robert.

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Posted: 25 Feb 2009







In tracing my family history, I found I have relatives born in the nineteenth century in Malswick, Woodmancote, Prestbury, and Hampton. These are all stated as being in "Cleeve", Glos. Can anyone tell me whether Bishop's Cleeve was at one time called only "Cleeve"?

Thanks

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Joy Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2009

Hi Joy,

I come from Bishops Cleeve. The locals quite often refer to Bishops Cleeve as just "Cleeve". Woodmancote is the next village along as you go up the hill. Prestbury is the village at the base of the hill. All the places you mention are in the "cleeve" area, they are all in and around Cleeve hill. Woodmancote and Bishops Cleeve are now joined due to housing developement. Bishops Cleeve has a wonderful history website which I expect you have already found. Need more help just ask

Good Luck


Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Sandie,

thank you for your reply but I don't seem to be able to find that website.... Help!

Joy

Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Joy,

Some usefull websites for you. The library in Bishops Cleeve is lovely and has lots of info on its history. The people working in there are also helpful.

www.imagesofbishopscleeve.info

www.twinmoons.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
village/index.html

www.libraries.gloucestershire.gov.uk/
index.cfm?articleid=6265

www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/
content/articles/2008/04/29/
bishops_cleeve_memories_feature.shtml


Hope this helps. Have fun.


Posted: 8 May 2009

Hi Joy,

According to A History of the County of Gloucester: volume 8, Victoria County History, Cleeve is a hundred. It was named in 1327 as a distinct hundred, comprising the townships of Cleeve, Brockhampton, Cockbury and Wontley, Gotherington, Southam, Stoke Orchard, and Woodmancote. There's a map available at www.british-history.ac.uk.





Alice

Posted: 29 May 2009







There appear to be a number of Fishers in the Cleeve area but I am of course keen to be researching my own family history and not take the wrong turning!!! Any help would therefore be appreciated.

William Fisher married Sarah Hobbs in 1845 at Charlton Kings. He was living at Bishops Cleeve and she was at Charlton Kings at the time. They said they were over 21 when they married (by licence) but a census later suggests that they had been 17 and 19 years. Both their fathers were farmers. William was born in Mawsley, Cleeve. His father was also called William. Sarah was born in Woodmancote. Her father was Thomas Hobbs who was also born in Woodmancote, Cleeve.

They went on to have a number of children including Samuel and Thomas A. at Hampton Cleeve and Edward at Prestbury. Edward is my direct ancestor. Please let me know whether you are related in some way to me!

Thanks

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Joy Fisher

Posted: 9 Feb 2009







My ancestors Edwin Stephens & Matilda Green married in Cheltenham 16/10/1837. Edwin's father: James Stephens. Matilda's father: Joshua Green. Their daughter, Ellen married in Australia. I found them in the 1841 census and then nothing till 1871 census when I think I found Matilda as a widow, living with her dau. Sarah Ann Steward. I can't find anything more on Edwin. Perhaps they came to Australia, but I cannot find any records. I cannot find Edwin's birth c.1817. Anyone researching this line?

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Joan Smith
jatraka@gmail.com

Posted: 6 Feb 2009







Several generations of my husbands family were born and lived in Cheltenham from the mid 1800s. We are extremely interested in any connections with Arthur William Lansdowne (born 1859) who married Mary in 1886. It appears that they had ten children. One of these children was Doris/Dorothy Edith Lansdowne, born 6th September 1898 and died in March 1991, aged 92. Another child, Henry John/James, born in approx 1897 is my husbands father. Any contacts out there?

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Posted: 4 Feb 2009

Hi there,

I knew the Lansdowne family very well and lived alongside them in Pates Avenue for many years. Dorothy looked after her mum and when she (mum) died she continued to live there with her brother. Unable to remember her brothers, there were two bros at one time, and then the one and Dorothy remained a spinster and lived there until she died. She had a sister Joan Roddam and another sister but unable to remember her name. I believe it was surname of Carter. It was from 1950 onwards I think it was 50 number of house area of Pates Avenue around Alstone Lane.

Hope this helps.


Posted: 20 May 2009

Hi,

I also knew the Lansdowne's and the Roddamm's. I think her sister married a Rocket and also lived in Pates Ave. I also lived there (LEACH). In the 1936 street directory there is living at no 50 a Percy Wynn Lansdown. Pates Avenue was built around 1934-35 most of the people moved from the slum clearences of St.Pauls to here.

Hope this helps.


Posted: 22 August 2009

Hello Jane,

Percy Wynn Lansdown was my grandfather. My dad was the youngest of the children. Three sisters and three brothers. I have done quite a lot of research into the Lansdowns. Please email and we can exchange info.


Posted: 7 November 2009







Hi, I am trying to trace the Margrett family tree and have traced it back to Cheltenham in 1810. My ancestor is Charles Margrett born about 1810, I know he married Martha Mann born 1808, and they had 7 children, Charles, Martha Elizabeth, Eliza, Alfred, Henry, Matthew and William, but am struggling to find his brothers and sisters and parents. If anyone has any information i would be really grateful.

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Katherine Margrett
kcplace1978@hotmail.com

Posted: 4 Feb 2009

Hello,

Just looked into this site and saw your message. Haven't looked at my Margrett tree for a while but I have tree going back to 1658, with links to other margrett lines. The Margretts seem to have originated in Deerhurst, nr Tewkesbury. If you would like me to check for your link please let me know and I'll have a look for you in my paperwork. My grandmother was a Margrett and we had relatives in Cheltenham.


Posted: 25 Mar 2009

I noticed your interest concerning the Margrett Family of Deerhurst / Tirley area of Gloucestershire. Researching the Palmer Family Tree My GGG-Grandfather John Palmer 1799 Married a Ann Margreat of Tirley. There seems to be so many different spellings of the name. If you have any information I would be very grateful.


Posted: 26 Mar 2009

The father of Charles Margrett 1809 was Stephen Margrate b.1778 @ Staverton who married Mary Piff 17 FEB 1806 @ Staverton. His father also was Stephen Margrate b. abt 1738 who married Elizabeth Pearce 21 DEC 1763 @ Staverton. These and the descendents of Charles take 4xA4 pages of family tree. Gladly send a copy. Bruce Margrett is member number 461 since 1984 of the Guild of One Name Studies registered for all traces of the name MARGRETT(S) and it's 30 odd varient and devient spellings. Glad to help.


Posted: 28 Mar 2009







Please can anyone give me some info on Nazareth house, Sandford Place, Bath Road as i have found in the 1911 census that my Gran Winifred Richards was lodged there, and would like to know if it was a school of some kind as there are a lot of young girls listed with her at the time. Thank you

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Posted: 29 Jan 2009

Hello Mark,

According to Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer Nos. 1-4 Sandford Place were Nazareth House orphanage which was demolished 1969 after Nazareth House moved to London Road, Charlton Kings.

Hope this helps.


Allan

Posted: 3 Feb 2009

Hi,

I am trying to find a photograph of Nazareth House to put with family tree, as my mum Gwennie Holland lived there from 1927-1936. Can anybody help?

When my mum was at Naz, as it was known, she attended St. Gregory's School which was in St. Paul's area, then it moved to Knapp Road. When mum grew up she used to go back and stand in as cook for 6 weeks and my siblings and myself used to stay, it was like going on holiday.



Posted: 27 Mar 2009

Hi Mark,

I worked in Nazareth house as a teenager. It was then moved to London Road by then. It was a home for the elderly run by Nuns. Hope it helps a little


Posted: 6 May 2009







Can anyone help - my G.G Grandmother Emma Domney was born in 1838 at 5 Hewletts Rd, Cheltenham. Her father is James Domney, a labourer. Her mother is Jane, late Shipway, formerly Underwood. Any information would be great. Many thanks

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Posted: 24 Jan 2009

I have a Jane UNDERWOOD who married a Henry Thomas GODSELL, they had 7 children and one of whom was a Emily, she was born in Charlton Kings, around 1855. Any connection? Cheers.


Tony James, Canada
tony.james67@shaw.ca

Posted: 18 Oct 2009







I am looking for information regarding William Jessett and his ancestors. William was born in Cheltenham abt 1816, he married (possibly before 1837) Ann Farmer of Westminster. William Jessett was a Linen Draper and Undertaker, he moved to Reading and appears on the Census there. Any information would be appreciated.

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David Stephens
davidfstephens2@aol.com

Posted: 23 Jan 2009

In Phillimore's Gloucestershire Parish Register, there is a marriage of William Jessett and Sarah Major, by license, 4 January 1808, in Cheltenham - could that be your William's father?


Jane

Posted: 30 Jan 2009







The 1911 census shows my Step Grandmother, May Hutchinson Waddy, living at Evesham Lodge, Cheltenham. Her Father was the General Manager of Sharpness/Gloucester docks. Can anyone advise me if Evesham Lodge still exists and where I may find it in Cheltenham. Also, I am interested to know if I can find any information on her Father, being the General Manager, there must be records of him and possibly a photograph. Thank you

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Posted: 21 Jan 2009







I'm trying to find out any information about Famley Lodge in Cheltenham. I have a Winifred Dawson listed as a student boarder, aged 16, in 1901. Thank you

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Beverley Peace
bev.peace@ntlworld.com

Posted: 15 Jan 2009







Hello, I have been buying endless certs, ie birth, marriage, death, in my quest to further family history. I have received a death cert of an ancestor which is witnessed by his son Roderick John Prout of 7 Gwernant Rd, Hatherley, Cheltenham. This is dated 1/4/1975. I would love to know who else lived at that address so that I may be able to follow up those leads and possibly make contact with descendants. Roderick's grandfather was my great grans brother . Thanks

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Posted: 15 Jan 2009







Inquests were held after the deaths of 2 former members of my wife's family. One death (Henry Woodward) was in 1888 at Soudley / Newham: death 3/12/1888, inquest held 8/12/1888. The other (James French) was in 1919, following an accident in the theatre. Any information appreciated.

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Colin Henderson







My Blackwell Family are from Cheltenham and listed in the 1851 Census. George Blackwell m. Mary Barradell and had 5 Children plus adopted one boy. In 1850, the two eldest sons left for Canada, thus, missed the Census. After the Census, the Father and younger son Henry left for New York. They came together again in 1854 in Canada and in 1857 they all went to Minnesota. Their story and history is documented by Lois Clarinda Twichel in her memoirs and expanded in my website. See www.blackwellgenealogy.com. Harper's Directory show George and Mary in their 1844 listing as living at Gothic Cottage, New Sandford Rd.

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Ron Blackwell







I am researching the Yeend family name which I understand was originally from the Ashchurch, Bishops Cleeve and Elmstone Hardwicke areas. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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I have researched Yeend family and live in the Cotswolds; if you would like to contact me, I and my colleague will gladly assist if we can. Best wishes,


Angela


I am researching the Fisher family - and got as far back as William Fisher b1828(ish) in Malswick, Cleeve. In trying to go back further I have found a William Fisher marrying Mary Yeend on 8.12.1804 (Bishops Cleeve marriage) and am wondering whether they could be his grandparents. I don't know whether your research has thrown up anything relevant that you would care to pass on? As always - any information would be greatly appreciated!


Joy Fisher
Posted: 9 Feb 2009


Are you still researching the Yeend family? Yeends from the Gloucestershire area moved to Walla Walla, Washington in 1870. Are you still researching the family?


Sandra Fuller
SFULL5@AOL.COM
Posted: 26 Feb 2009


Hi, I have just stumbled on your request for Yeend info. One of my ancestors (Alfred Doxsey) married a Sarah Yeend 26 Nov 1867 in Cheltenham. I believe she was born about 1847, not sure where, and her father was a Charles Yeend born about 1816 in Cheltenham. Be interested to know if you can fill in any other details!
Regards


Posted: 11 Apr 2009


To Joy Fisher,
I have William Fisher and Mary Yeend in my family tree and if you give me your e-mail address I will contact you.
Regards


Posted: 12 Apr 2009


See you are researching the Yeend family name. Have you had any success with the first lady Angela or any of the others. Had a queer message relating to my son Mark. It said that this particular lady Mary Davies was researching the family name. I wrote to her but she had no knowledge of even knowing about the name or having posted it on the board. Strange. She is a relative of Cook(e) whose family originated from Bishops Cleeve. If you are interested, you may be able to help her, as you may have come across her family history somewhere down the track. Her e-mail is maryatwinterbridge@hotmail.co.uk

Kind regards


Posted: 25 Feb 2010








Hello, I am looking for any one researching the Webb family of Swindon Village 1800 on, and the Cooper's of Arle and Swindon Village.

Happy hunting,

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I think you will find Webb's and Cooper's still live in Swindon Village. Swindon Village has a very good Local History Society, they have published about 6 journals, they are on this site, under Clubs and Societies, the chairman is Barry Simons, he gives his phone number, I don't know an email for him...

Arle abuts Swindon Village. I have had a quick look through 3 booklets written as a Neighbourhood Project for Hesters Way (which also covers Arle) but did not see the names you are looking for. I trust this is of help, any problems come back to me at any time. (I am responsible for answering email enquiries for Cheltenham Local History Society)









Hello,

I am trying to help a family member in America. She has just received the marriage certificate for the following people. On 1 Oct., 1840: Charles Amsden Profession: shoemaker Residence: Priory Terrace, Cheltenham Father: James Amsden (shoemaker) in the presence of William Powell. and Elizabeth Little Rresidence: Tewksbury (or Stokesbury?) Rd, Cheltenham Father: Edward Little (hay trusser) in the presence of Mary Ann Arkell and Mary Little.

Is there any evidence for these people in Cheltenham in this period? The Amsden family came originally from the Oxfordshire area and it is quite possible that a splinter group found their way into Cheltenham and remained incognito. It was certainly not their usual area, most moving eastward towards Herts and London.

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Peter Amsden

Hi, I am not researching the Amsden family, but the Little's that you mention, are my family. I have the Little tree back to the 1600's if you are interested. Let me know if I can help you with the Little's. Happy hunting, Marlene









Does anyone know anything about this company? They were from Cheltenham and had a hand in building several railway stations. The two owners were Thomas Vernon and Paul Ewens. They both lived in Cheltenham in 1881 but were both living in London by 1891.

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I have done quite a bit of research into the Central Ironworks, which was Vernon & Ewens company in Cheltenham. The contracts that they won, both locally and nationally, were quite impressive, including the new Hammersmith suspension bridge over the Thames, designed by Sir Joseph Bazalgette.

I have been trying to find information into how and why the company folded, having only found a few details in our local press. I would also like to know whether the firm actually completed the contract for the Hammersmith bridge, or whether the work was handed on to another firm as it is around the time that they went bust. Would be happy to share/give any information.



Posted: 13 Jan 2009







I am aware that my 3 x Great Grandfather, William Russell married a lady named Hannah Webb at Painswick in 1816. I do not have anything to back this up though. As far as I am aware William was born in or around Ledbury in 1787. Could anyone give me any help as to whether this is the case or not? I know from the little family history that I have, the Russells started out in Oxfordshire in the early 1700's and slowly moved through Gloucestershire to Malvern and then to Ledbury. Apart from my fathers side of the family I seem to have hit a brick wall in the late 1800's. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

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I am very new to geneology and have only just started but I do have a Fanny Maria Russell, born 1828-1917, who married my Great Grandfather John Holder, born 1803-1900, Bredon Hardwicke. Fanny was born in Snowshill. They had 6 children in all: John, Albert Henry, Richard, Elizabeth Sarah Ann and William. Fanny or Frances is buried at Stanway Church together with her son John and daughter Sarah. Her husband John Holder is buried at Bishops Cleeve church. They lived at Paper Mill Farm House, Stanway. This is all I have at the moment and maybe not any use to you but it's worth a try. Good luck in your quest, its really addictive isn't!

Regards









We have a watercolour painting of Dante's Wine Bar/Bistro in Cheltenham. Possibly from the 1970's. It would be interesting to know the history of the place and what happened to it after it was sold. Is it still there and called somethine else or was it knocked down?

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Vanessa Pritchard







Would anyone have information on my Lawrance family. The spelling I have is Lawrance some records appear to have the spelling Lawrence. The family was known in the States for having a great greenhouse and nursery business. My Great great Grandfather was Thomas Lawrance. Our family records start with a Thomas Lawrance b. Jul 7, 1777. His wife was Reba or Rebecca. They had many children including Richard Lawrance. Richard married Mary. I believe that her maiden name was Leake. They too had many children. Their son Thomas as I mentioned before was my GGGrandfather. His wife was Mary Pryor from Launceston, Cornwall. He had a son John and a grand daughter Mary. My records list Thomas as emigrating to Montreal On. around 1857. He then moved to Kingston On. and married Mary. They moved to Ogdensburg, New York, US around 1860. Newspaper articles list him as growing up in Cheltenham, UK.

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Ted Faluszczak
faluszczak@verizon.net







I am trying to locate more information about the following family members and the place: Timothy Sadler married Margaret ? Son James Sadler, married Susanna Boyce.
Children:
Timothy Sadler christened Dec 1801, Richard Sadler christened Nov 1807.
Richard Sadler married Mary Bryan June 1840 at the Parish of Charlton Kings Children: Eliza Sadler born 1841 at Andnell, Sarah Sadler born 1847 and Mary Sadler 1849 2 Hamilton Cottages, Charlton Kings. Also lived at 4 Park Street and 2 London Road, Charlton Kings.

Where is Andnell - is it spelt correct? I would like to visit this place some day soon but would like to know more....if you can help, look forward to hearing from you. Thanks

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Karen Ericksen
kiwikaz74@yahoo.com







I was in Cheltenham in 1952, my name was Carol Ann Couzens, my family's name was Peters (grandparents) and Couzens (also grandparents). My grandparents lived in Reform Cottage, Presbury, Cheltenham before they both died and were buried in Presbury church yard. They were buried with Emma and William Kitchen. My other grandparents also lived in Cheltenham. I have papers to say they were related to them but I don't know how. I have aunties and uncles still in Cheltenham - it would be so nice to find them.

My grandparents are Rose Couzens and grandad was Horace William Couzens. Emma Kitchen died 12/10/16 and her husband was William Kitchen (died 27/3/20). My mum was Joyce b. Peters, then Couzens, then Adlam. My dad was Leslie Horace couzens, he died 28/3/1985. I'm looking for all my family tree going back into 1916, can you help please.

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Hello, I have been briefly trying to find out the oringal name of my cottage in Fairview Street, with no luck so far. I believe it was built around 1810-1825, do you know of any old maps which might have details of house names? It's number 25 which is set back off the road (unlike the terraced houses in the street) which makes me wonder if it was older and one of the first to be built.

Thanks in advance

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James Beezley

I've had a look back on the Censuses and in 1851 there is a Vine Cottage on Fairview Street.


Margaret

Posted: 12 Mar 2009

Hi,

There are indeed old maps. If you can get to Cheltenham Public Library, so much the better. There is one in particular issued by the post office that lists all the cottages etc in the area from that era. There is a Pine Cottage (qV on the Post Office map). You could also try "googling" old maps.co.uk. I had good luck doing this myself. But back to possibly your cottage: Just off Fairview Road, a little ways into Trinity Lane (close to the big Holy Trinity Church) was a little cottage called Pine Cottage. It is no longer there but if you look at a modern map, it would have been found behind what is now MultiYork furniture store on Portland Street and Warwick Place just off Fairview Road. I also have an interest in this area as I had people once living in Pine Cottage as well.

Good luck.



Posted: 22 Jun 2009







Does anyone have any information on the Barrett family who lived in Cheltenham in the late 1700s. Anthony Barrett was married to Mary. They had 6 children - Harriet, Eliza, Edward, John, and 2 others. They were all born from 1797 -1811. He died in 1815 and the family went to live in Chelsea, London. I understand there was a Barrett's Mill in Cheltenham and wondered if there was any connection. Anthony Barrett was a plasterer and it seems that many of the family also had this occupation.

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Hello there,
Can some kind person tell me if Park Street cottage is still standing as my grandmother Elizabeth Higgs was born there in 1856, her parents were Thomas Higgs/Elizabeth Alsop who later lived in Higgs cottages, Alstone. The family later moved to Birmingham. Any information would be greatly appreciated and a photograph would be super.

Thank you

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I am trying to find out more about Edwin Miles, born 1866 - lived in Prestbury Rd, Cheltenham. The last record I have for him is 1943 his wife was called Emma (Bastin) and they had three children William E Miles 1894, Gladys M Miles 1896 and Doris E Miles 1899. I can't find any more details about them either. If anyone can help that would be wonderful!

Thanks Carole

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Looking for any info on the Edwards family of Charlton Kings. Starting with William Edwards, born abt. 1771 in Gloucestershire. His son was Robert Edwards, a plasterer, born abt. 1809 in Charlton Kings. Have managed to go forward from Robert but need to go back from William.

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Debbie







Trying to find Charles Robert Pooles family, my nanas family. Charles was born abt. 1880 and married in 1899 Rose Selwyn. Can you help. My nana Doris Rose Poole was born 09/09/1899 at Poulton.

P.S. Send all replies to my email address direct, thank you.

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Hello all,

My great grandmother was Annie Caroline Trotman JOHNS (nee ELY). She came to Australia, married Thomas JOHNS, lived W.A, + vic and died 1955. I have her death cert, it says born Gloscestershire, about 1870. But that's about all I know about her.

I'm pretty sure this family below is the right one, please let me know if it is incorrect. ---

1881 census - Nth Cerney, Glos.,
Annie Trotman ELY, age 2, born Calmsden. c.1879
parents Richard Trotman ELY, age 38, Farmer, born glos c. 1843, he is in Cheltenham in 1901 census, married Ellen Jane, in 1877.
Ellen ELY, age 33 / 38, born Nth Cerney, c. 1848
Annie's sister Ellen Maria ELY, age 6, born Cheltenham, c. 1875
Annie's brother, Richard ELY, age 8, born Charlton Kings

Until now I haven't been able to confirm Annie's parents, and I can't find much info, England or Australia. Any info always greatly appreciated.

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Can any one help with a marriage for William Frankham, I have hit a brick wall with this one. Have found a Christening for a son Henry Grove Frankham 10/07/1810 Cirencester but no marriage for his parents. Also trying to find any siblings, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Anne-Marie, South Australia
samplumb3@hotmail.com







I would like to have contact with anyone researching the Musty surname in Gloucestershire. I can share information as have started a one name study for the county.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz







I am looking for details of a building known as Rutland House in Cheltenham. In 1838 William Hughes and his wife Mary Anne lived there with their children and later documentation indicates he owned it. Can anyone explain to me how English property titles work please? Is there any way I can confirm who did own this place in 1838 and when it was sold?

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When you search the databases on this website, in Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858-1859 you can find this entry:

Beach Hnry, Rutland House, Regent place

Hope this helps with your research.

Alice

Thank you Alice - it has me going again,


Posted: 5 Jan 2009

Hi Gillian, I don't know much about the early ownership of Rutland House, but I do know that my ancesters lived there in about 1891 and may have been there until early 1906. However I don't know if they owned the property or not. Will check my documentation and see if I have any more info on the house itself... As one of the other researchers suggest it might be worth checking other Directories for early dates.


Posted: 13 Jun 2009







I have hit a brick wall with my family research. I am trying to find the Christening and Marriage of William Colley. According to the 1841 and 1851 censuses, he was born in Badg(e)worth about 1798 and he was married to Rebecca born about 1799 in Westerleigh. In the Badgeworth baptism of 1811 for Sept. 1st it states, 'Thomas and Henry, Sons of William and Sarah Whithorn. Jn Son of Robt & Mary Hopton also Wm Col(l)ey.' I can only assume this is him. Any assistance much appreciated.

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I am trying to trace Dr Paul Pearce DAVIES who is related to me on my Dursley and Cheltenham SUMMERS line. I corresponded with him several years ago but have had no reply to my last letter. Unfortunately I cannot recall his last address. He has written a book on the Church in Great Yarmouth in the last year or two so must be alive. Does anyone know where he lives now?

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz







Is anyone able to tell me what years the following photographers were in business please. 1) JOYNER 2) DIGHTON STUDIO I am trying to date some photos from the family of my GGGrandmother Emma SUMMERS whose father was Henry SUMMERS baker of the High Street Cheltenham.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz

Hello Sandi,

I don't know when you posted your request but I've just discovered this site and your request for info on photographers. Two of my ancestors were early photographers and I found the following site(s) very useful - I have checked and the names you mention are listed. There was a John Joyner, Photographer in Cheltenham and Richard Dighton (Junior) also had a studio in Cheltenham. More information can be obtained from www.cartedevisite.co.uk and its sister site www.victorianphotographers.co.uk which will give you addresses and dates of operation etc. They will send you any info they have for a small charge. Hope this is helpful.

Kind regards


Posted: 25 Feb 2010







I would like to contact anyone researching the Summers surname. I have a lot of information in addition to my own line which is Henry SUMMERS m. to Sarah POWELL and their 5 daughters. Emma b. 1840 married DELVES Eliza b. 1841 - did she marry? Harriet b 1843 married Alfred George HUNT Louisa b 1848 - did she marry? Martha b 1850 - did she marry? Any contact with relatives would be welcome.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz







Be quick, I'm on my last legs. One line entry from Bishop's Transcripts: Cheltenham - 21/12/1803 William son of Willm and Mary Hays. The baby William can be traced 1832 onwards. He awarded himself a middle name "Arkley" or "Arteley". Doesn't appear to be his mother's name - must have come from somewhere. He turned up as a gardener in the Lake District. Anything at all - which church, banns etc.

Any clues whatsoever as to who Willm and Mary were. William and Mary's were very common. Two possibles are one at Eastington 23/5/1790 (Evans) and the other William Hey and Mary Morgan, St. Michaels, Bristol, 2/11/01. Happy days

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Researching REA, RICHEY, BONNOR, STABLE, KELLER 1800 onward. Looking for living relatives.

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Our Ancestor Richard Surman moved to Tredington, Gloucestershire in 1543. Through DNA we know he is directly related to William S*rm*n of Eldersfield, Worcestershire who leased land there in 1480. We are particularly interested in the Surmans of Cheltenham. Our earliest record is of a marriage of Thomas to Joyce Malty in 1792 in Tewkesbury whose son James married Ann Hawker in 1833 and lived in Cheltenham. Our FH website can be found at www.msurman.freeserve.co.uk/www.

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I have a Harriet SURMAN who married one of my cousins, John Rogers KEARSEY at Cheltenham in 1850. However, she was born at Great Washbourne, Gloucestershire to John SURMAN and Mary SURMAN nee Unknown. From my research it appears that her father came from Beckford, Hereford and Worcester.

Don Cameron
sluggan@gmail.com

Hello Don,

Harriet is my husband's gt*aunt. The children were all born to John's first wife - Harriet, nee Taylor of Bishops Cleeve. Mary, John's second wife, is buried in St. Benets Churchyard, Kemerton. If you view our web site you will see direct lineage for Harriet back to Richard born c.1520. Some years ago we had contact with a family of researchers in Ilford who are descended from Harriet & John Rogers Kearsey. If you want to know more contact me direct. Thanks for posting.








Does anyone have any information on William Henry JAMES, eldest son of William JAMES. William Henry was born in Portsea, Hants. 1882. Moved back to Cheltenham with his parents around 1882/3. Worked with his father in the Blacksmith buisness untill his late teens. Believe he married a Ellen STUBBS, Sept. 1904. Worked as a gardener in the Leckhampton area, am told he divorced around 1920's and moved to Gravesend, Kent. Any information would by greatly appreciated on this elusive Great Uncle.

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Just posting change in e-mail address. Please reply to tony.james67@shaw.ca

Thanks.


Posted: 18 Oct 2009







I am researching Early Settlers to Carterton District here in New Zealand, one family from Cheltenham area, was Walter Francis and his sister Louise, Walter married Fanny Bonython, Louise married William Skey. Walter Francis was born 1837, came to NZ in 1850s. Anyone looking for more information on this family, I can possibly assist, and put them in touch with descendants. Walter, we believe, had a brother William, if anyone can help either way, I look forward to hearing from you.

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Two of my ancestors were sent from Radnorshire to orphanages in Cheltenham, one boy and one girl, Thomas and Mary Ann Probert. They were on the 1881 census, but I can find no record of them thereafter. I'd be grateful for any info on the orphanages - who sponsored the children, where they went to work once they left etc.

Thanks

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I think I have found the boy THOMAS back home in Wales on 1891 census with the family
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4566; Folio 7; Page 5; GSU roll: 6099676.









I am trying to make contact with Wade's in Cheltenham from our family.

James Thomas Wade married Emily Lovesey (M) 1859

Children:

---- James Thomas (b) 1860 Is our Grandfather came to Australia and Married. Only one of family come to Aust.
---- Henry Alfred (B) 1864 after married lived Stroud.
---- Frederick William (b) 1861
---- Francis Eugene Lovesey (b) 1865 (d) 1866
---- Emily Elizabeth Lovesey ( 1866)
---- Orlando Percival Godolphin (b)1869
---- Sidney Curtis (b) 1871 was in Salvation Army after Marriage
---- Christiana Gertrude ( b) 1873
---- Lewis Parker (b) 1875 lived Birmingham area after marriage
---- Mary Ada ( b) 1882

Would love to make contact with one of family ancestors in England to help us with family history.

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Margaret Wade
wade11@kooee.com.au







Henry DEVEREUX Junior: 1901 census: Henry Devereux, 31, b. London, house painter, St. Mary's Civil Parish. Also at St. Mary's was an Esther, 36, and Florence, 5, both b. Cheltenham. Marriage: Sep. qtr., 1893, 6a/807 to Esther Mills.

No birth for Florence in Free online BMD's. Best prospect for Esther Mills: Esther Elizabeth Mills, b. Tetbury, December qtr., 1860; daughter of Thomas J. and Caroline Mills; 1871 census: in Highbury, Finsbury, Islington, 15 Leuwen Road (Sue Teakle, UK); Thomas was a plasterer; 1881 census: at 20 Lowman Road, Holloway, London; siblings Lucy E. 15, and Maria W. 8, both b.Islington. Thomas 40, b. Gloucester; Caroline 40, b. Cheltenham as was Esther Elizabeth 20. Possible age transcription error, 1901 census (should have been 41 if correct Esther?).

Parents marriage in online BMD's: Thomas Jonothan Mills m. Caroline/Elizabeth/Caroline Hall, Pancras, London, 1858. Must have returned to Cheltenham for Elizabeth Esther's birth registration, then back to London. Best prospect marriage: Florence Devereux to Devonshire, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, 1914, aged 19 years?

Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand








HARRIET DEVEREUX, school teacher;Cheltenham family:

Harriet not found after 1851 census. All marriages, 1851-1880 checked against 1881 census records. There is a marriage for Harriet Devereux, June qtr., 1876, Gloucester, 6a/520, to John Thomas Knight? There is a John Thomas Knight, chr. Temple, Bristol, Gloucestershire, son of James and Ann, November 1, 1835? He had a sister Mary, chr. February 18, 1838? Not found in 1881 British census. Gloucester is a few miles west of Cheltenham.

There is a death for a Harriet Knight, 44, Wheatenhurst, December qtr., 1883, 6a/192? Not found in 1881 census as Harriet Devereux; US census 1880; Canadian census 1881; Australian (NSW/Victorian Immigration records); 1893 New Zealand Electoral Roll.

Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand








My wife is a NSW-born Devereux descendant of a large Cheltenham family, 1800-1900 at least. An Emma D. was married to Joseph Halliwell whose family had the Red Lion public house there for many years. However, Joseph died in the early 1890's and Emma seems to disappear - not found in the 1901 census or cemetery records. I have a wealth of information on both families and happy to share. Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand


Vic Cole has researched the landlords/landladies of the Red Lion in Cheltenham, and has asked me to forward this information to you.
1855 - Joseph Hallawell (Halliwell)
1856 - Mrs A. Hallawell
1859 - 1890 Mrs Charlotte Hallawell
1890 - 1892 Joseph Hallawell
1892 - Emma Hallawell
1892 - 94 Daniel William, Augustus Workman

Trust it is of help.



Posted: 4 Mar 2009







A sad occurence brought the QUINEY family to Cheltenham. Originating in Stratford upon Avon, Rebecca, Lydia, Job and Edmund arrived in Cheltenham prior to 1841. Rebecca married William Langston and set up home in Prestbury, Edmund married Mary Pritchard and lived in Prestbury near the Beehive Inn, Job married Elizabeth Howells and emigrated ain 1849 to Australia and Lydia, still a single lady went to Australia to find her brother in 1852. Neither returned to England. I am descended from Edmund and would be pleased to hear from anyone else researching the name. I have most, but not all, of the family back to around 1733, as I have been researching for eight years.

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William LANGSTON was a cordwainer and lived in Mill Street, Prestbury. He had three sons, William, Harry and Arthur. William Snre died in 1864 and the family moved from Prestbury, Rebecca, his wife going to live in Leckhampton as a nurse to a family of confectioners. All sons had children, but William, Harry and Arthur had all died by 1900, however, their mother, Rebecca, lived until 1901, and died at the age of 90. Interested in contact with anyone having LANGSTON ancestors.

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I am interesting in contact with anyone researching the DUNFORD name in Cheltenham. My DUNFORD family seem to have been the only family of that name in 1851 and earlier. They were in Cheltenham from at least 1826 until 1833, then Leckhampton.

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Researching William JAMES, born 1854 Swansea, Wales. married Mary Jane GODSELL, Jan.02, 1879 at The Registry Office, Cheltenham.

William and Mary Jane had 8 children,
      William Henry, b. 1882,
      Arthur Ernest, b.1884,
      Alice Louise, b.1885,
      Kate Louisa, b. 1887,
      Albert John, b.1888,
      Frances D., b. 1890,
      Muade, b. 1893,
      Harold Douglas, b. 1895.

William was a Blacksmith and believe he had a forge at 6 Sun Street, Cheltenham. He was my Great Grandfather. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Hello Tony,

I don't know whether you noticed this photo on the internet from Cheltenham Art Gallery collections of Sun Street.



It's 59-60 Sun Street, the smaller building on the left houses toilets. Sun Street still exists but these houses have been demolished in the 1920s. You can find more information about this area on this page.








Hi, I am researching my ancestors John Palmer and his wife Mary Palmer, formerly Ballinger, nee Craddock. John was born in Marylebone, Middlesex abt. 1792 and Mary was born in Winchcombe abt. 1794.

Their children are...
      John, b. abt. 1827
      George, b abt. 1828
      William, b abt. 1832
      Eliza, b. abt. 1833
      Mary, b. abt.1836

I look forward to hearing from anybody who has these people in their tree.

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Ann Palmer-Steel, Brisbane Australia
anniepannie3@yahoo.com.au







I am researching Richard Warren born c1808 married Elizabeth Painter 13 Oct 1833 and then Mary Ann Rice 19th June 1836, I am trying to find who his Father was, can anyone help.!

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I'm researching George J. Pearce, born 1870 in Cheltenham. His father Thomas Pearce was a cabinet maker. I would like to get in touch with anybody researching this surname in Cheltenham.

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Hi Jane,

I too am researching the Pearce name in Cheltenham most likely from the dates of 1820 until 1910. My descendent is Benjamin Walter Pearce (1831 - 1899) who owned and operated a Builders Merchant near St. Georges St. in the late 1800s. I have a great deal of info about BWP, but would like to learn more about the rest of his family and his father Joseph Griffiths Pearce and mother Jane Wheeler. Would be interested in sharing info.



Posted: 8 Jun 2009







Hello, searching for Arthur Walter Clarke, born 1854 in Cheltenham. In 1881 he is unmarried in Calstock, Cornwall. Can anybody help to find his parents?

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Hello, I am looking for more information about Charles and John Ball, sons of Peter and Lucy Ball, born in Cromwell or Cromwell Common (could it be Cromhall?), Gloucestershire (John in 1825, Charles in 1833). By 1841 the family moved to New Brinsley, Nottinghamshire. If anybody is connected to this family please contact me, I would be very much interested in finding out more about their Gloucestershire roots.

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Thank you for putting your family on the web site. In a way they are my family, too, as I am descended from Charles' second wife's sister, Mary Gill Bamforth. You have solved a mystery for me....how Charles and Emma came to have children before they married! Thanks


 



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