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I am researching the surname CAFFELL from Frome, Somerset, and consider that a branch went to Cheltenham approx. early 1830s. Any further information will be greatly appreciated.

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Neville Price
pricenw@clear.net.nz

Posted: 23 October 2011







Hi, I am trying to find any information on Thomas Jones abt 1860 at Cheltenham.

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Posted: 21 October 2011







Does anyone know if the Hotel Majestic is still standing and what it's address is please? All that I get on the internet search is the Barcelo hotel which doesnt look anything like the old postcard picture I have.

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Posted: 6 October 2011







I am trying to establish the connection between Conway Whithorne Lovesy Esq. of Charlton Kings and my grandfather Frank Conway Whithorne Lovesy born in Cheltenhan Dec 25, 1890.

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Posted: 16 September 2011







I am researching my mother's side of my family tree which is Haines. I am trying to obtain as much information about Henry Haines born 1786 as he was a well known builder in Cheltenham. Could anyone help me and provide information about him.

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Posted: 3 September 2011







We're currently renovating a house on New Street, Cheltenham. In the cellar, we've discovered that our house is built on the walls and foundations of a much earlier stone house. Does anyone have any information about what was on New Street before the current houses were built (c. 1900)? I know it was a lane leading down to one of the Alstone Mills on the now-Waitrose site, but nothing other than that.

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Posted: 24 August 2011







I am researching my Family Tree and I know that the Smith Family lived in Bishops Cleeve as I remember visiting them when I visited Cheltenham. I believe the wife's maiden name could be Davies and they were Chris or Cress and Bea and had a son Roger who I think was born around 1950. I would be grateful for any assistance.

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Posted: 23 August 2011







Can anyone help I am trying to trace My G G G grandfather William Virgin who married Jermina Tovey in Littleworth in 1824. He moved to Leckhampton in Cheltenham living in Knapp Place, Tivioli gardens. They had 7 children my decendant was Arthur Alfred Virgin born in 1848. In 1849 Jermina comitted suicide and William lived till 1885. I am trying to trace Williams Birth and where.

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Annette Pemberton
annettepemberton@gmail.com

Posted: 20 August 2011







I am trying to trace a marriage date my husband's grandparents, and as the family lived in Cheltenham, I am trying to see if they got married there. We have been struggling since 2008, I am also trying to find his military details as I have a photo in uniform sent from Cheltenham in June 1916, where he may have been convalescing, and know his unit. I thought his military service record would give his next of kin details. Can anybody help me at all please? I would be very grateful and would send any details I have if you could help me to solve this ongoing mystery.

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Posted: 6 August 2011







Hi, my mum worked at a hotel called The Suffolk, owned by Tr Mr and Mrs Tronoughs (may not be spelt correctly) during 1939-1942 approx. I would love to know where it was, because my Mum having left her home in Tirphil south Wales aged 14 to work in Cheltenham met my dad there, he was born in Cheltenham. My Mum said it was close to Queens hotel. I would be so grateful if someone could tell me where it was, or pass on any information about it. Many thanks.

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Posted: 31 July 2011







I'm trying to find the parents/siblings of Robert Clutterbuck (born 1850ish) a plasterer living in Cheltenham in 1891.Robert was my great grandfather. Very grateful for any information.

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Posted: 29 July 2011







Looking for any information on the above and his wife Eva (nee Younger) both died in Cheltenham in the 1980's. Orignated in Lancashire, if any one has anything at all can you let me know please. Many thanks.

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Karen Miller
Kamilla1960@aol.com

Posted: 26 June 2011







Looking for Bick and McEntaggerts marriage in or around the 1900s at catholic union I think.

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MHAIRE WORMAN
tel_mary@yahoo.co.uk

Posted: 25 June 2011







Does any one have any information about a wine merchants from about 1939, i beieve it was called Martins but the spelling may not be correct. My Grandfather was a driver for the just before the out break of the war, All I know was that they were based in Cheltenham somewhere, if any one has any information I would be grateful for the details.

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Posted: 25 June 2011







I have recently moved into Rothesay Mansion, 2 Albert Road, Cheltenham. I am intrigued by who used to live here, before 1900. In fact Rothesay Mansion was built in 1841 - it is mentioned in Cobbetts Rural Rides - but no sign of its inhabitants. Now could someone out there inform me of someone who lived at Rothesay Mansion in the period 1841 to 1901 - then I could look him up in ancestry.

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Posted: 8 June 2011







I am looking for information on my 2nd great grandfather Michael OMara. I have a public tree on Ancestry.com "The Backes / O'Mara Family." I believe Michael was born in Ireland about 1830. He moved to Wales in the 1850's, living in Cardiff and then Merthyr Tydfil. He married Catherine Sullivan in St. David's Roman Catholic Church in Cardiff on 6 Dec 1856. I went to the Glamorgan archives in Cardiff and found a marriage index. It's in Latin. It appears to me that before they lived in Wales that they, meaning Michael and his wife Catherine, lived in Cheltenham sometime prior to 6 Dec 1856. So, the date range for them living in Cheltenham is about 1840 to 1856. About 1850 something to 1860's he's in Wales. By 1870 he had emigrated to Pennsylvania in the USA. I'm trying to trace Michael back to Ireland. Michael's father was James. James died before 6 Dec 1856. The surname O'Mara has been misspelled as Mara, Marrah, and Omarra. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Joseph Backes
Ebackes@nycap.rr.com

Posted: 30 May 2011







Does anyone know how I can find out who was living at 12 New Street, Cheltenham during the 1880's? Thank you.

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Posted: 23 May 2011

www.findmypast.co.uk If the link does not work - use "Find my past" website search the 1881 census (free) and it gives you the option of an address search. Two single men, bith in their 60's and both shoemakers lived there!



Posted: 5 October 2011







Hi all, I am looking in to the surname Westall as my ancesters Peter Westell and his son Peter Charles Westall came from Cheltenham. The first was born in 1800 in Cheltenham and was listed as a music master in 1841 living in fairford. In 1851 he lived at 50 St Pauls Street North in Cheltenham. He married and Elizabeth Powell from Withington and then when she died I think he married her sister Ann. Any info on the Westalls from Cheltenham around this time would be gratefully received.

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Posted:22 May 2011







Looking for information on Samuel Tayler born 1808. He was a Baker in Cheltenham and he married Rachel (nee?) in 1843. He had two children that i know of, Samuel b 1845 and Mary Ann b 1849. I am hoping to find if Samuel b 1845 left England to live in New Zealand. Any help appreciated!

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Alie

Posted: 8 May 2011







We have been researching the Villar familly ,centred around that of James, who was an auctioneer in cheltenham up until his death in 1884. The family had connections with the jockey Fred Archer, his son William is mentioned in Archers biography, but we think there is also a connection with another son Harry, he was an auctioneer in 1881 but there is a chance that he could have been an architect before this,can any one help?

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Posted: 2 April 2011







I have been relatively successfull in researching my family tree back to the seventeenth century so far. However, I have problem which I cannot resolve. My grandmother, Ellen Sarah Marston (nee Etheridge) was born at Barton St. Mary in 1885. She moved to Birmingham to work in service in the 1890's and was married there to Charles Marston. The last record I have of her is moving to Cheltenham in 1960 with her daughter Ellen Elizabeth Biscoe (nee Marston) and son-in-law Maurice John Briscoe. They owned a fruit shop at the time but I have no record of an address. Consequently, I can not find the date of her death. I have also been unsuccessfull with all of the recognised websites. I know this a long shot but if anyone in Gloucestershire could shed any light on my problem I would be very grateful.

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Posted: 22 March 2011







I am tracing my paternal family tree. My grandfather Ernest George Tanner was born in 1913 to a Gladys May Tanner, no father is on the certificate, address given was 9a Lower Vaynor Road, Cefn Coed, Upper Merthyr Tydfil. He was given away not adopted to a family with the surname OLDING. I have hit a dead end. Story goes she was sent to America after giving birth (no reason given) and that the Oldings were my grandfathers great aunt and uncle (not sure how true this is). Any help would be gratefully appreciated!

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Posted: 19 March 2011







Henry Edward Edkins born Welford 1871. Found in 1911 census, aged 20 as a policeman in Cheltenham. Death reported in Q3 1896 at Stratford on Avon. Very little is known of my Great great uncle. Does anyone in the Cheltenham/Stratford area read the old newspapers in the Records Office? I wonder if he died in the line of duty? Any information would be very welcome.

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Peter Blackaby
blackaby@uwclub.net

Posted: 11 March 2011







Can you give me any information about the history of the business premises of no 5 Queens Circus? We have records of a Lily Jewell Parsons who was a milliner's assistant at this address in 1891. She lived with Jane Stembridge, Ellen Williams, Mary Long and Annie Jay. We are researching the Parsons family for a relative and would welcome any advice or information.

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Posted: 7 March 2011







Still trying to trace marriage of Gt Gt Grandad Thomas Pitt Francis to Anne Wooley (nee Chaplin) 1825 - 1840. Thomas, a coachman, was born in London but by 1841 they were both living as a married couple in Cheltenham with family. I also have info on a Thomas Pitt Francis who was a freeman at Worcester 1821 - 1830s. He was a bankrupt by 1833 and is listed in London Gazzette. I am not sure if this is the same Thomas or if it could be his father. I am trying to keep an open mind on the subject.

Anne formerly married to Cornelious Wooley at Northleach who I also have no information on, other than he was a 'surgeon'. He died in 1825, they had 1 daughter Ann, but she died too. Anne's family seem to be linked to the Wheatsheaf Hotel - her brother Richard Chaplin lived there.

Any info on either Thomas Pitt Francis or Cornelious Wooley that could help me further pindown their marriage would be great.

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Posted: 3 March 2011







A total stab in the dark - as I have very little information about this lady. I am trying to find out about a lady named Sarah Alice Curtis, living in Walkworth Villa, Gloucester Road, Cheltenham - 1926. She was apparently married to a gentleman name Rowland Curtis although to date I haven't been able to find a marriage record. She appeared to have connections with 2 men known as Frederick King (a boot make that lived at Milton Road, St Marks, Cheltenham) and Frank Meadows (a commercial traveller, who lived at 25 Adria Road, Sparkhill, Birmingham) Any information gratefully received.

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Posted: 8 February 2011







My great grandfather, George Aldington married Catherine Jones from Cheltenham in 1859 and them moved back to North Littleton Worcs where their first born Kate was born. Sadly Catherine died when Kate was 6 years old and she was the only one of their children not to live with George and his second wife Eliza but was found in 1871 living with an aunt and uncle Mr and Mrs Otter in Cheltenham. She is next found in 1881 as a penitent at the Convent of the Good Shepherd Bedminster Somerset.under the name Addington where she died in 1893. Any help as to find out why she became a penitent there would be appreciated as I have found little to assist me in Somerset.

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Posted: 6 February 2011







Hello, I am trying to find all I can about William Slatter of Arle Brook cottage Nr Swindon Village Chelt He was my (Great grandfather) I have him on all the Censuses that he was a Market gardener of a few acres in that area. I am tring to find out if he owned land or rented as when he died he had two children one my Nan who were very young and went into a home, I have all the papers from the home, looks like they were very poor. Would he have rented the land? if he owned it where did the money go Any info about him or Arle Brook Cottages and the market gardens In 1901 he was 79 living with his 3rd wife of 40 years young !!

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Posted: 2 February 2011







Hi, I am trying to trace some info on my grandfather, Joseph Say, who was living in 1930-1942 at 1a Priory Parade, Cheltenham with I think a lady with the surname Baker. He in fact called himself Baker. He died in 1942. He was a factory fire watcher.

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Tracey Blunsdon
theblunsdons@talktalk.net

Posted: 31 January 2011







My dear nan passed away 4 years ago now, before i had really been able to search for her siblings. Her memory of names seem to have drawn a blank with any BMDs! Nor can i find her parents. The trouble is, everything is so sketchy as when she was a child, she and her older brother were taken to Nazareth House on the Bath Road in Chelt. Neither was adopted. Her name was Emily Mary Bruce, she always said her birthday was 10th June 1910, but we have no birth certificate as proof of this. - her brother was Edward Adrian Walter Bruce, who again, have no record of his birth. Other siblings were Elsie Bruce, Dolly (poss Dorothy who was older), and Violet. Nans' mum and dad were Sarah Watkins and Edward Walter Bruce, Nan didnt think they were married. I've found a few "possibles" for things but the locations are a bit too sporadic. Nan seemed to think she was born in Somerset, but was def taken to the orpanage in Cheltenham. We know her brothers family, but despite her passing, we would still love to know what happened to everyone! A shot in the dark i know, but if anyone thinks they might have any info, please get in touch!

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Cathryn Martin
cathryn.martin@sky.com

Posted: 24 January 2011







I have been look at my grandmothers history and have found her living in 1911 at st pauls and listed as inmate - was there a workhouse there at this date?

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Posted: 9 January 2011







I am researching my father-in-law's mother Florence or Florrie Payne, and in 1911 she was working as a kitchen maid at Hazelwell. She was born in Cardiff in December 1894 (registered as Paine), and moved with her family to West Dean ca. 1899. The only certain record I have of her after 1911 is when she gave birth to Arthur James Payne in Cardiff in May 1915. If anyone knows anything about the staff or Cheltenham College boarders and masters at Hazelwell 1911 to 1915 I would like to hear from them, or even better still knows of any records of their employees. The Cheltenham College archivist has not been able to find anything in the College archives.

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Posted: 7 January 2011







I am looking for information about my grandmother who in 1904 lived at 7 henrietta street cheltenham she had a child in 1904. she was living with a mr embrough, who she put down as the father of her child. her full name was kate matilda jones. we know that by 1911 she was in sheffield living with a william christmas cooke.

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Posted: 6 January 2011







Hello, My wife recently bought a tea table at a local estate action. Written on the bottom of the small drawer in ink was: W. T. Rawlings assembly room Cheltenham I have researched this site and also learned of the history of the Cheltenham Assembly Room and also located a Francis Rawlings that was a cabinet maker in Cheltenham in 1830. Does anybody know as to who W. T. Rawlings might have been? Was he also a cabinet maker? Maybe Francis son?

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Posted: 3 January 2011







I am at present researching my wife's family history. I am interested in Edith Maud Jones nee Phillips known to to be living in Cromwell Road Prestbury in1912 I am also looking for information on David Jones a Tailor in 1881 and also James Webb a Painter also in 1881. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted: 3 January 2011







Hello, Hoping someone might be able to help me. My Great Great Grandfather Esau Birch was a groom at a place called "Park Lawn" and although it is listed on the 1851 census as being in Charlton Kings, I have been given to understand that it was in fact in Leckhampton back then. Does anybody know exactly where Park Lawn would have been situated. Every little thing helps to build up a picture of the life our ancestors lived.

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Posted: 2 January 2011







Can anybody give me any information on J Gordon Homeopathic chemist 1 promenade Place Cheltenham I have a medical box containing small bottles containing homeopathic medicines and inside the case is labeled J Gordon etc as above.

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Kelvin Young, New Zealand
youngonesnz@hotmail.com

Posted: 29 December 2010







Have read your website with interest, particularly mention of Bedlam Forge Haydens Lane, where I think an ancestor of mine was the blacksmith in the 1700s Could anybody advise me if the remains mentioned on the Swindon Village page are still there please. Thank you

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Posted: 7 December 2010







My grandmother sophia anna maria horton lost her husband 1910 age 42 yrs. when her two children married, it was said she went to nazareth house chelt about 1916. i found record that stated she died there in march 1936 she is buried in catholic grave in glocs. i am wandering if anyone can tell what her life would have been and what she may of done all those years was she became a nun. i am her gt grandson.i have also been told her relative sarah horton was also there. would be interested to hear about her life big sacrifice all those years

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Posted: 7 November 2010







Do you have any details of Pittville Circus from 1923. My grandmother attended S. Annes Nursery Training College in that year. And then went to work as a Nanny.

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Pamela Wilson
grahame1234@msn.com

Posted: 7 November 2010







I am trying to trace my Stamp family in Cheltenham. Charles was a Tailor is in Slater's Comm Dir for 1858/9. His son Albert was also a Tailor who moved to London. Charles' father was John who married Ann Powell in Jan 1821 in Prestbury. I can't find any Stamps on the 1911 census, although there was a Stamp family there in 1906. Can anyone help please?

Many thanks.

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Posted: 28 October 2010







In 1834 Henry Haines a builder in Winchcombe Street built a house for Robert Capper who at that time was the owner of Marle Hill House and the President of the Cheltenham Hospital Board. The house had a number of subsequent owners during the 1800s and 1900s, and in the mid 1980s became the home of the Cheltenham Raquets Club. Unfortunately the house fell into disrepair, and in the early 1990s was converted by Robert Deacon Builders into The Cleevelands, a residence of seven apartments.

I am currently trying to build up a history of the house from 1834 to 1994, and hence any information on the original and subsequent owners of Cleevelands Villa and the surrounding properties in the adjoining land to Cleevelands Villa would be most helpful.

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Posted: 27 October 2010







I am searching for a Florence Caddy/Prosser - my grandmother. I have no other details than her name! My mother was brought up as Florence Caddy. She didn't have a birth certificate until she applied for one aged 20. Her copy is dated 1st November 1945. It was then she found that she is registered as a Florence Prosser and her mother as Prosser- formerly Caddy. Her Father is listed as John Prosser a General Labourer, there are no other details of him.

When my mother was 2 ½ she was placed in the sisters of Nazareth children's home, Cheltenham Gloucester. Date of entry as 11th January 1928. She was baptised on 15th April 1929 at St Gregory's church Cheltenham. Is my search hopeless with only a name to go on, could you suggest somewhere new to look? Once again I would be so grateful for any help.

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Posted: 27 October 2010







I was born in Cheltenham and have family links to all the above surnames and help or information would be of great help in tracing my family tree, thanks

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Posted: 26 October 2010







I have been researching my family history for the past year and my findings have led me to Cheltenham. I am looking for information about a William Edwards born between 1841 and 1843. At first we thought he was from Somerford, Magna Wiltshire (that's what was on the census returns from 1881 to 1911). I checked with the Wiltshire archives and they said that there is no record of him in the parish records.

After examining the 1871 census it turns out that he came from Cheltenham. I believe that he came to Merthyr Tydfil about mid 1860s. There is no marriage record for him although his partner Ann is down as Edwards and had 4 children. I also believe that something happened to him that led him to come to Merthyr Tydfil, also his surname could have been Atherill / Atherell / Atherall. It is also believed that either him or a relative jumped ship or desserted the army or navy. I do know that he had a brother called John.

But something does not add up and I cannot put my finger on it if there is anything that anybody could help me with I would be very grateful.

Kind regards

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Anthony Edwards

Posted: 11 September 2010







I'm researching Daniel Hawkins, who was an architect and surveyor and lived in Columbia House, Columbia Place in 1881 (address now Winchcombe Road). He married Emily Phillips and they brought up her niece Maria Phillips who was my great grandmother. 1871 he was also a builder in Prestbury Road. His office was 1 North Place.

Regards

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Posted: 9 September 2010







I was born in a home for unmarried mothers on 27 December 1942 in Winchcomb Cheltenham. Can you tell me the name of the home. Thank you.

Regards

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Posted: 6 September 2010







I hope you can help me I am trying to trace my HANCOCK ancestors and recently came across the marriage of Thomas Hancock to Elizabeth Smith 10 Oct. 1805 @ Bishops Cleeve. I would like to find out more of the Hancock family as I have been trying to track down Isaac Hancock who married Mary Ann Smith @ St.Swithins, Hempsted, Gloucester for 20 years. The IGI states his birth was 1897 but his Prison Record puts it at 1805 and that makes Thomas & Elizabeth possible parents... Another name that has been uncovered is Mary Hancock in 1791 she was a baker in Gloucester and so was Isaac in 1822 until 1830. Mary's will was dated 1794 but I have yet to find out where I can get a copy.

Regards

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Brian

Posted: 22 August 2010







Looking for any relatives or information about an attorney John Packwood, who lived at Grosvenor House in Chetenham, Gloustershire, England in 1830.

He had a son named John, who emigrated to Pennsylvania and spent most of his life in Chester City, PA. and Wilmington Delaware. John Jr, passed in 1915, in Virginia in a home for U.S. Civil War Veterans. He was an orphan when he was 9 years of age. Became a master Plumber and did a lot of Municipal and Federal Government Plumbing and Gas Line installations from 1859 till 1907. He married Margaretta Ford who died in Chester PA, in 1892. Have an extensive history on John jr. Have nothing on his parents except his Father was a Lawyer, so there should be a big paper trail there.

Thank you for your time!

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Posted: 22 August 2010







I am looking for a Charles Clutterbuck who married a Mary Wilkes in Cheltenham. Charles Clutterbuck was born 5 April 1840 in Cheltenham. He died in 1906. Mary was born around 1842 in Stow, Gloucestershire, England, and they moved to Cheltenham. Children: 1.Jane Clutterbuck born abt 1866 and married a Harry James Lewis. 2. Charles Clutterbuck abt 1867 3.Henry abt 1873 and 4. Grace abt 1876. They were all born in Cheltenham. If you have any information, I would appreciate hearing from you.

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Posted: 21 August 2010







I'm trying to track down information on two residences in Cheltenham that belonged to my great-grandfather in the 1880s and 1890s.

1. 4 Paragon parade, Bath Rd

2. Northumberland Lodge, Tivoli

He was Walter Moritz Pooley, a dental surgeon, born Cirencester 1852, son of Charles and Anna Sophia Pooley. Any information about him or the houses would be greatly appreciated.

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Adair Hobson

Posted: 18 August 2010







I've been researching my mother's family for quite sometime now but have reached a dead end. My gt gt grandfather was James Carnell, he gives his birthplace as either Charlton Kings or Cheltenham, Glouc. in 1816. He married Margaret Higgins in Dublin in 1845, William is given as his fathers name on the certificate. I know there is a parish record of the marriage of Philip James De Loutherbourg Carnell to Ann Cook in 1811, Charlton Kings and wondered if anyone could help me find a connection to my Carnell family, and also if there is any connection to the artist Philip James De Loutherbourg 1740-1812.

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Carol Howe

Posted: 2 August 2010

Hi, sorry can't answer your questions, just pose another one! But there may be a connection. I have a Sophia Carnell born Cheltenham Glos. circa 1834 the daughter of Joseph Carnell a Tailor born in Bath and Caroline Carnell. who were married at St James Westminster where their second child was born... so why were they in Cheltenham when Sophia was born? Any help greatly appreciated.



Posted: 9 April 2011







I am researching the Clack family, from Edward Somerset Clack, 1886 - 1951 and his three children, Leonard, Dora and Leslie, he was married twice, to Ellen BUNCH and Kathleen BUNDY. Of anyone has anymore information about this family would love to hear from you. Thanks.

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Kathryn Cousens
cousenskathryn585@msn.com

Posted: 1 August 2010







My grandmother Helen Worsell, and three of her sisters (Eveline, Lottie and Hettie) were sent to school in England from the Cape Verde Islands in 1905 to 1907. They were at Ellesmere Collegiate School which I believe was near Cheltenham. Does anyone have any information on this school or know where I can find out?

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Jennifer Newton
jen@cjnewton.co.uk

Posted: 26 July 2010







Hi, Could someone give me a quick history on Belmont House please. I am looking at family history and it appears that my great grandmother at the age of 5 in 1881 was living as a boarder at Belomont House. Her name was Mary E Cherrington. I am from Cheltenham but now living in South Wales UK.

Thank you.

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Chris Evans

Posted: 24 July 2010







Hello, I'm looking for Hemmings family, Cheltenham. Alfred born around 1838 had sister Eliza, married a Poole, and brother George. I think the father might have been George, no record of mother which I would like to find out. Later moved to London, they were stonemasons. Any help further back would be helpful or any really.

Thanks,

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Posted: 18 July 2010







I'm trying to find an Agnes Regan, born Cheltenham c. 1857 and married widower Thos Grinnell, died 1925 Cheltenham. They lived at The Pilgrim Inn, Rutland St. in 1881. I can find no record of her whereabouts prior to her marriage in 1880. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Margaret Grinnell

Posted: 15 July 2010

Dear Margaret,

I have looked through the 1861 and 1871 censuses and could not find her, even in BMD births and nothing. One thing I can suggest is .... In the 1881 census she is married to Thomas, he is almost twice her age and the children are too old to be born to Agnes except John who is less than one year old. This info says Thomas had been married before but may be also Agnes had been married before and Regan was her married name prior to Grinnell. If you have no marriage certificate you need to order it to be sure that her maiden was Regan. To order it go to http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

District... Cheltenham Vol ........ 6a Page ..... 604 Brian


Posted: 16 July 2010

Agnes is recorded as Goulding and also Regan when she married Thomas Grennell in 1880. They had a son John born in 1881, again with both surnames listed. Thomas died in 1889 aged 58 Agnes is in the 1901 census aged 44



Posted: 29 November 2010

Rutland street became Brunswick St later - not sure if this helps.



Posted: 3 March 2011







Hi, my mother was put up for adoption in Cheltenham in 1952. Her birth certificate says her real name is "Jane Piper" born to a "Louise Piper". We cannot find any more information on her mother other than she may have lived or have given birth at a property Pitville Lawn June 5th 1952? We have come to a dead end, so for any information we would be grateful. I have read about an orphanage in the area. Is there any way we can check the records here?

Kind Regards

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Posted: 28 June 2010







I am researching Thomas Edmund Weller born c.1799, who according to Pigot's Directory for 1830 had a Literary Saloon on the High Street, Cheltenham. I believe he married his wife 1st Oct 1823; her maiden name was Elizabeth Dixon Southerden. Has anybody got any information on the couple before they moved to Liverpool.

Thanks.

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Tom

Posted: 27 June 2010







Harper's Directory of 1844 lists a business at 10 Union Street, Cheltenham, of William Cook, Carpenter. I am fairly sure that this William Cook (and there are many) was my great great grandfather. I am seeking any information which could help the development of my family tree. I have some information but not enough to be able to find William's parents, and grandparents. All help would be welcome.

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Posted: 27 June 2010







Please can anybody tell me the name of the Inn or Hotel which shared an entrance with old Palace Cinema in the High Street Cheltenham where Marks and Spencers now stands. I think it was the Lamb but I may be wrong.

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David

Posted: 25 June 2010

This is the Crown Inn, (Crown Passage still exsists). The Lamb was a few doors down, nearer to the then premises of Marks & Spencer (no passage there).


Posted: 20 July 2010







Hi, I am currently researching an ancestor of mine named Esther Backen born around 1828, died 1875. according to the census of 1861 she was working as a servant for a Mrs Elizabeth Graham at 1 Pittville Terrace, Cheltenham, along with another girl called Ann Chamberlim. I would really appreciate any information anyone could give me on the area and working conditions etc, or on Mrs Graham herself as it would be interesting to know who my ancester was working for.

According to the records Ester had a child in 1863 with an unknown father, apparently it was to somebody in the Cheltenham area where she was working. The only clues I have is that the son's name is quite unusual and maybe something to do with his Father. Ester called her son John Bagshaw Backen. She returned to Wolston to register the birth, (to her parents' house I think) and then married 2 years later to a local man called William Mills. I am desperately trying to find some information as to who John's Father could have been. I have already checked the census for anyone with the surname Bagshaw but I haven't found anything. Any help you could offer would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

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Posted: 21 June 2010







I have been doing some research into the business activities of the Hook Norton Brewery Company during the period 1882-1886. During this period the brewery (then known as Harris's Brewery) dealt with Cook & Ditherington of Cheltenham on 18 occasions. The documents I have been consulting do not mention what trade Cook & Ditherington were involved in. I wonder if anyone could provide the answer to this question.

Thank you for your help.

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Rob Woolley

Posted: 13 June 2010

Is the spelling of the second name correct, as we have a Cook & Witherington who were in the licensed trade.


Posted: 15 July 2010

my gt grand father worked for brewery near bristol then later at lydney


Posted: 7 November 2010







I am attempting to trace my husband's family history. I have found George Fisher a wheelchair maker who is on the history list as living at 27 Union Street Cheltenham in 1844. I have also found him on the 1841 census. I would be grateful if anyone is able to supply me with any further information about that branch of the Fisher family.

Thank you.

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June York

Posted: 13 June 2010

Hi, 1851 census for Cheltenham Gloucestershire Piece 1973 Fol 30 Page 53 3 Carlton St Chelstenham Gloucestershire George Fisher 35 wheelchair man born Newnham Gloucestershire Elizabeth 44 born Brockwell? Glos. Edwin 19 trunk maker born Cheltenham George 17 picture frame maker born Cheltenham Emily 14 born Cheltenham + 3 visitors and 1 servant

Sandra

Posted: 14 November 2010







Can anyone shine any light on this lady, wife of George. Born Scotland 1808 or 1811. Maiden name may have been Stewart. Children include: George, Ann, John, Grace and Henry. Many thanks in advance.

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Posted: 11 June 2010

Hi Kath, If you look on the Cheltonia web site under my name at the end of the list of comments - made in answer to your request - you will see something of interest. Let me know if you want more, by sending me an email

Adrian Phillips
adrian.phillips@gmx.com

Posted: 17 July 2010







Any photos of the BAKER FAMILY of Cheltenham.
Names: LUKE 1813, WILLIAM 1836 / JOHN / HENRY WILLIAM / 1850
Addresses: BELMONT LODGE, 68 WINCHCOMB ST, 8 ALBERT PLACE, 5 PITTVILLE LAWN
Occupations: PLUMBER CARPENTER BUILDERS

John 1836 was a JP alderman served 10 years in army all were linked to the Liberal party. Had builders yard, employed 16. Any info or photos

Thank you

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Posted: 10 June 2010







The churchyard at St. Michaels in Bishops Cleeve was greatly reduced in size during the mid 1800's. I am trying to locate grave details for a number of my family who lived in Brockhampton and Swindon at the time and had done for many generations, and were buried at St. Michael's. Does anyone have any information to what happened to these graves? Where they just built over or moved somewhere else? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 10 June 2010







I am currently researching this officer who was killed in action serving with the 10th battalion Gloucestershire Regiment on 22nd July 1916, aged 21 years, just south of Martinpuich in France. His next of kin is shown as the son of the late H Thornton C.E. and Dorothy K Thornton of 11 Lansdown Cresent Cheltenham. He attended Cheltenham College. I would dearly like to find a photogrpah of him.

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Posted: 9 June 2010

Hi, try the Glos Archives, they keep a number of books called the graphic, which was a newspaper of the time, many soldiers have their pictures in this and are contained in the Role of Honour. My grandfather fought at Loos for the the 10th in 1915, the archives are in Alvin St, Gloucester, if you would like any data on the 10th just email.


Posted: 12 July 2010







I grew up in Cheltenham during the period between 1944 and 1962. I am looking for my childhood friend Linda Bluewett, we lived on St. Georges Street.

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Diane (Jamieson) Palmer
dianepalmerr@aol.com

Posted: 5 June 2010







I am trying to find information on my husband's G-Grandmother Georgina Matilda Hall. She was born in 1866 in Winchcombe. In the 1871 census she is living in Winchcombe with her Grandparents George and Eliza Hall and in 1881 was in Cheltenham working at Belle View. She marries Harman Bridges in 1885 in Winchcombe and goes on to have 6 children. I want to find out about her parents and her early life if possible.

Any information will be helpful.

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Fiona Sturgess
fionasturgess@aol.com

Posted: 4 June 2010

Fiona,

There are many reasons why children may be with their grandparents, visiting, living there because parents cannot afford to keep them or single mum living with parent. I found a registration of birth in 1866 for a Georgina M Hall. You can send for a birth certificate which may or may not be her. This would give mothers name and if married fathers name. Order online http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Here are the details:
District ... Winchcomb
Volume ... 6a
Page ....... 356


Posted: 13 June 2010







Looking for anything to do with relatives of the Fowles family. I know some of the family lived in Painswick Road area and had stables or horses for taxi services. Just wanted to extend my knowledge. I know one chap moved to Australia (used to live in Leckhampton 1920s). Also some Fowles may have lived in Leckhampton but I don't know anymore than that.

Thanks in anticipation

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Posted: 1 June 2010

Hello, I used to live at no 35 Painswick road Cheltenham, and no 39 was a pub, and no 41 was a stable converted to an MOT garage at the time (1993) It was later converted (@1996) into housing, and you could find out more from Glocestershire archives in Gloucester probably, or maybe the current owners of no 41? (Land Registry in Gloucester might also have some info) Good luck!


Posted: 5 January 2011

I am also trying to find out some details for my wife, as her Dad came from Cornwall. Victor Richard Fowles. I would appreciate it very much if you do come up with something. He came out to South Africa in his early days ( 1930's ) and has passed on. This is the reason that we are trying to get some details as we hope to go to Cornwall at the end of the year.


Posted: 16 May 2011







Does anyone remember the grocers at Shelburne Road or of anyone that work there round about the late 50s - looking for info of Seamus/James Brown or lady called Rita

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Posted: 31 May 2010







I recently purchased a beautiful mine cut diamond pin with several blue saphires. The pin came in what appears to be the original box. The box lid says "Arthur Jack & Co The Promenade, Cheltenham". Was Arthur Jack & Co a business located in the Promenade? If so would you know what years they were established there, or if they were taken over by another company?

Thanks in advance for any information available.

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Keldy

Posted: 25 May 2010

I googled a bit and found that Arthur Jack & Co were recorded in Cheltenham from 1865 and were still operating in the early 20th century. They seem to have had a London office as well. They seemed to have been making watches, jewelry boxes and retailing silver and jewelry.

Alice

Posted: 31 May 2010

Just purchased a lovely boxed set of tiger claw decanter lables http://www.waxantiques.com/items/4363.htm. In passing also found a clock: Lot 80: A large late Victorian ebonised drop-dial combined timepiece/barometer/thermometer Auction House: Christie's Auction Location: United Kingdom Auction Date: 2005 Artist or Maker: BY ARTHUR JACK, CHELTENHAM, DATED 1889 Description: By Arthur Jack, Cheltenham, dated 1889 The white-painted Roman dial inscribed ARTHUR JACK/CHELTENHAM, with single fusee brass-bound weight-drive four- pillar movement with anchor escapement, the barometer with pointers inscribed 10am today and 10am yesterday, the 'high-low' thermometer with silvered scales, with presentation plaque PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY BY ARTHUR JACK/THE PROMENADE CHELTENHAM 1889 95 in. (241 cm.) high, 33 in. (84 cm.) wide, 9 in. (23 cm.) deep Provenance: Formerly: in the entrance hall of Cheltenham Public Library. http://www.invalua ble.com/auction-lot/a-large-late-victorian-ebonised-drop-dial-combine-1-c-dq6f0t6ewm.


Posted: 08 June 2010







Hello, would anyone living in Cheltenham have an idea where my grandmother, Lucy, may be buried please. She lived in Arle Drive, Cheltenham and died in 1953. Many thanks. Also thank you to Jane who sent details re H H Martyn for me. I do have the book : THE BEST if anyone needs a look up.

Thank you

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Posted: 24 May 2010







I am searching for the names of the parents of Edwin (Angel) Davis born in Alstone, Cheltenham in 1827, parents Henry and Sarah. IGI Records show he may have had a brother John, and sister Anne. A marriage record in a Henry Davis married a Sarah Hilliard, in 1827 in London, but I am not sure if this is the right mother's name. Anyone else researching this family please email me. A photo of Edwin and Amelia's daughter (nee Barker), Isabella Maria Davis is attached. She is my gg grandmother.



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June Frerichs
junefrerichs@gmail.com

Posted: 24 May 2010

Hello June,

Am also researching a Davis family of Alstone. My 4x gt grandfather was William John Davis b.1833 Siblings Ellen, Harriet, Elizabeth and Henry( b.1844). Their parents were Sarah b.1806 & John DAVIS b.1807. So not sure if we are connected...DAVIS is a very common name unfortunately, and I'm finding it difficult to prove I have the right family.

Cheers

Gabrielle (NZ)
themilnes@clear.net.nz

Posted: 5 June 2010

Hello, I believe the people you are talking about are also my own 4x gt grand parents. I have not found out yet if they have had other children other than William. William and Mary married and had 5 children I believe I am a descendent of their son Sydney Charles. Do you know what child of theirs you are a descendent of.


Posted:27 February 2011







I am trying to trace information on a relative, Gladys Phipps, who I believe become Gladys Barnett, and was last known to reside in the Cheltenham area. I believe she served in the Queen Alexandra Nursing Corps during World War Two.

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Posted: 23 May 2010

Hi George, there is a Gladys Phipps who was born in 1911, mothers maiden name Sanford. Married James Barnett in 1956. This could be your relative


Posted:29 November 2010







Hi, I am looking for info on my grandfather Joseph Say b1876 Bristol. He was married to my grandmother Annie in 1900 in Bristol. He was in Royal Gloucesters for 2nd Boer War and was living in Barry for 1911 census with family. WW1 he enlisted again, coming out in 1919. I think he left his wife during some time during 1930 and moved to Cheltenham to live with his girlfriend/wife? He had a brother called William Say who was a furniture remover in Gloucester. He died in 1942. I have found William's family from census.

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Posted: 12 May 2010







Hello,

I am trying to find the birth, parents and family of Maria Evans born c 1826 in Cheltenham. She married Thomas Child Spiers from Elmore in 1852. She was my gggrandmother on my fathers side. Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: 1 May 2010

Hello Carol,

In the 1841 census there is a family of Evans with Maria in the family born around 1827... Can't guarantee it's the right family but it may be a start for you.
James Evans--------------45
Elizabeth Evans----------43
Maria Evans---------------14
James Evans--------------11
Charles Evans--------------9
Elizabeth Evans-----------7
William Evans--------------5
Mary Evans-----------------4

They appear in the 1851 census also, with 2 extra siblings
Louisa Evans--------------9
John Evans-----------------4
Maria is living away...


Posted: 11 May 2010







Anyone have any information on my ancestoer Rowland Curtis? He was a tailor and lived at Sandfield Cottages around 1890 then at Walkworth Villa in 1901, I think, until his death in 1926. I believe he made hunting jackets for the Beaufort Hunt. Any info greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 6 May 2010







My great-grandfather was Harry Harris, who fought in the Boer War with the Royal Engineers and is commemorated on the Cheltenham war memorial (before he went to South Yorkshire). His father was James Harris who owned a knitwear factory in Cheltenham with a patent for seamless knitwear clothes and was succeeded by his eldest son(also called James). They lived at Brook Villas, Hatherley Road. James's father was called Thomas and he was possibly a farmer. I would be grateful if anyone has any information about the Harris family and/or the factory in Cheltenham.

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Andrew Drury

Posted: 5 May 2010







Hello,

I am trying to research the history of a watermill situated in Gardamus, Mayglass, Wexford, Ireland. The mill is situated on the Mulrankin / Mayglass border. In Richard Griffiths valuation in 1853 it is owned by a John Fortune with the landlord listed as E. M. Danniels and partners, they have a Cheltenham as their address. They owned the whole of Gardamus Great and Gardamus Little at the time along with another 1250 acres in Wexford. On the 1829 ordnance survey maps its listed as a corn mill but on the later maps its listed as ruined. Any info about this person greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 1 May 2010







I have been researching the Bayliss family from Winchcombe. John married Mary (surname unknown) and had at least one child William Henry in about 1801. He married Hannah Sargent in 1829. Can anyone help me with this family. I would appreciate anything!

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Posted: 1 May 2010

Just got to this site by mistake, I came to Bishop's Cleeve from Cornwall in 1959, here in the village at that time was a post office run by the Bayliss Family, local history might tell you more, this village is just below Winchcombe.


Posted: 2 May 2010







Researching William Henry Preston - born in St. Paul's area 20 Jan 1876. Hoping to fill in gaps in his early life. 1881 census lists a Willie Preston, then aged 6 years. with a Catherine Preston aged 26, as residents of Cheltenham Workhouse. We also have info that William joined the Royal Navy at an early age and that an address, No. 6 Emily Place, Charlton Kings could have been where he might have lodged,, from time to time, perhaps when on leave from the Navy. He ultimately married and settled in Plymouth, Devon. His name was missing from time to time from various census returns; probably missed when on Naval duty abroad. Cannot find any current reference to the Emily Place address - maybe demolished? Would be pleased to fill in the'missed' early years history.

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Posted: 29 April 2010

Hello John,

Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer says that Emily Place were 6 houses in Horsefair Street, existing by 1841 Census, named after the builder's daughter.

Regards,

Jane

Posted: 2 May 2010







My gt gt grandfather William DAVIS (b. 1833) married Ellen ANDREWS about 1853 in Cheltenham. I know they had one son, also Wiliam John b. 1856 of Alstone. I want to know if William & Ellen had any other children. Would welcome any look ups.

Many thanks.

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Posted: 23 April 2010







Looking for information on Sarah Domney born abt 1816. She married Charles Povey in Cheltenham in 1834.

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Colin Wood

Posted: 21 April 2010

Colin,

1841 Census, Cheltenham Stanhope Street, Now known as Hope Street
Charles Povey 30
Sarah 24
Caroline 5
Helena 4
Charles 3
Elizabeth 1

The 1851 Census only Sarah and Caroline are listed living in Wotton under edge. There is a death for a Sarah Povey in 1867, age 55 in the district of Dursley.


Posted: 22 April 2010







I'm looking for any decsendants of Robert Mayall & Sarah Willis who were married on 30 September 1843 in Southam. Their children where Ann, Joseph (my ancestor), Henry, Jane & Edwin.

Regards

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Posted: 19 April 2010







I am looking for my friend, Miss Peggy Stephens from Cheltenham, now probably in her eighties or nineties. Her fiance is buried at the Berlin War Cemetery and I used to put flowers on his grave. Please help me to establish her whereabouts. I think she moved into a home a few years ago.

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Posted: 16 April 2010

I think you'll find she now lives in Rectory Court in Bishop's Cleeve.

David

Posted: 16 June 2010







I am looking into my family tree. My great great Grandad who was born in 1821, lived at 30 Montpellier Terrace in Cheltenham during the mid/late 1880s and I have discovered he was a Professor of Music. Is number 30 still standing and does anyone have any information about this family?

Thanks

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Posted: 2 April 2010







I'm looking for my brother Dennis Hoptroff, I think he lives in Cheltenham.

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Ivy Crossthwaite (Hoptroff)
ivycrossthwaite@yahoo.co.uk

Posted: 28 March 2010







I'm looking for any information on my g grandmother Emily Merry, nee Daniels. She was born about 1896 in Churchdown, Gloucestershire. I believe she was from quite a large family with one of her sisters being called Gertrude. Emily married Henry Merry whom she met whilst serving in Birmingham. They came back to Cheltenham in 1917 and had their first daughter also called Gerturde (Peggy). Any information on this family would be a great help.

Thanks

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Posted: 27 March 2010

From the 1901 census (Cheltenham) Members:

William Daniels, 34
Elizabeth Daniels, 33
Stephen Daniels, 13
William Daniels, 11
George Daniels, 7
Albert Daniels, 2
Ellen Daniels, 9
Elizabeth Daniels, 8
Emily Daniels, 5
Annie Daniels, 4
Rose Daniels, 3 months


Posted: 3 April 2010







I'm searching for any information about the Hopton Family in Cheltenham. My great-great-great grandparents were Robert and Charlotte Hopton, who emigrated to New Zealand in 1841 on the Lord William Bentinck. Robert's father was Daniel Shadrack Hopton, born in 1780. He was a cabinet maker and during the census of 7 JUN 1841 was living at Long Smith Street, Gloucester. Any information would be much appreciated.

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Posted: 24 March 2010







Searching for info regarding my great great Grandfather James Golding, his wife Maria (Humphris). James was a house painter and decorator. He married Maria in 1849 and their children are Maria, Elizabeth, James, Jane, William, Emily, Edwin, Sarah and Anne born between 1851 and 1864, They lived in Guiting Power, Naunton, and Bourton-on-the-Water, then 15 Keynsham St and 59 Regent St Cheltenham. My great-grandfather Jame immigrated to Australia and married Mary Ann Griffin, who was born in Cheltenham. Any information regarding the family would be greatly appreciated.

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Anne Golding-Ross
agoldingross@hotmail.com

Posted: 7 March 2010







I am researching a MEE family who lived in Cheltenham during the 1800-1840 period. RICHARD MEE was listed a 'Horse Farrier' on court documents when a son was transported to Tasmania in 1828. RICHARD was married to a ANN WALLACE in 1809 in Shurdington. Anybody out there who might be able to help?

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Posted: 3 March 2010







Dear Cheltenham4u,

I have been trying for a few years to trace specifics. I have heard that my family are descended via the first Tailor & Tailoress of cheltenham in the mid to late 1800's, but have no real concrete place for where the business premise was in cheltenham or around Charlton Kings. Do any members or readers know of any stories related to the family name of HATHAWAY or GRIFFITHS and this trade in particular? This is an important chapter in my life to tackle this particular story and surrounding events. Names or information would be great, pictures would be tremendous!

Warmest Regards

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Posted: 20 February 2010

I too am descended from a Tailor in Cheltenham mid to late 1800s. His name was Charles Stamp and the tailors continued down through the line, my grandmother being the last one. Good luck with your search. I will post too for info on my family.


Posted: 10 March 2011







I am researching a family connection perhaps someone may be able to help me find out more about this family. William Smith (tailor) was born in Gloucester 1820 the son of James & Ann Smith (James was a Corkcutter). William from the age of 21 lived most of his life at 1, Duke Street Cheltenham with his wife Eliza. There were four children Laura born in Cheltenham 1856, Alice, Charles (a tailor who moved to London) and Catherine, all born in Bath.

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Mike

Posted: 18 February 2010







Hi,

I have discovered that my matriarchal grandmother's family hail from Cheltenham. Although she and I come from Sussex, I now live in the Forest of Dean and have been investigating more about John Richards (approx 1928), his father William Richards (17/2/1790) and his wife Edith Morgan.

Census records show John as living at 219 High Street - I went there yesterday but afterwards wondered if the building had been renumbered and/or replaced? I also looked for grave stones but was disappointed, after finding the Memorial gardens off Market Street, to discover that the stones are no longer there. Anyone know if they are available elsewhere? I also noted that William signed his name on his marriage certificate, whereas Edith marked with a cross. I wondered if William was one of the poorer children who benefited from the School in St. Mary's Church - is that the same as the Bluecoats? Any other thoughts and info would be much appreciated.

Thanks in anticipation,

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Posted: 16 February 2010

Yes, parts of the High St were renumbered a couple of times I think but i can't remember when. The Library may be able to help, or the Glos Records Office. I also had an address which changed, it is annoying! The gravestones in the memorial Gardens are hidden some under bushes around the chapel. Try the Cheltenham Cemetery for info if you have a date of death etc.


Posted: 3 March 2011







Please can anyone tell me where Upper Montague Street was? My great aunt gave this as her address in 1939 but I have no idea where it was and can't fine it by searching online. Thanks

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Posted:11 February 2010

Hello Sheila, Historical Gazetteer of Cheltenham lists Montague Place, London Road. 6 houses on north side, west of Priory Place, i.e. present nos. 3-11 London Road. First shown on 1820 map. Includes former Montague Lawn, present nos. 5-9, so it's possible that Upper Montague Street was somewhere near there.

Jane

Posted: 12 February 2010







I am researching my family and have a relative who was visiting Cheltenham in 1922. She lists her destination as 7 Queens Parade. I would like to know who was at that residence since perhaps 1 of the family that is no longer in Canadian records could have moved there.

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Posted: 8 February 2010

Hello, 7 Queen's Parade seems to have been a lodging / boarding house in 1858 (Slater's Commercial Directory), so it's quite possible that it still served the same purpose in 1922, when your ancestors stayed there during their visit in Cheltenham.

Alice

Posted: 9 February 2010

After some research I found in 1911 there were only 3 people living at this address. The head was Julia Whatton and she died in 1919. In 1901 there was an Eliza Kelly, aged 96, at this address and she died in 1904. My question is who was on the electral role of 1922 that my relative would visit?


Posted: 16 February 2010

Electoral Roll, Cheltenham 1922
7 Queeen's Parade Occupants:
Ethel May Meyler
Gavin Walker
Ethel Maud Walker

In 1927 Kelly's Directory Gavin Walker is given as resident., I cannot find anything to suggest this was other than a private house.


Posted: 7 May 2010







My mother is trying to find out about the history of the Girls' Orphanage on Winchcombe Strreet - she was there from 1942 to 1948 aged 2-7 years. Can you assist - is the building still there? She remembers a park (1p to enter) and cinema being nearby. Thanks in advance for the help.

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Posted: 29 January 2010

Hello Debbie,

The park your mother mentions must be Pittville Park and the cinema would have been the Odeon, which closed down a couple of years ago but the building is still there. It seems that the orphanage came under Holy Trinity Church. I don't think the building is still there - found this old map from 1820 which shows where the School of Industry (later to become Cheltenham Female Orphan Asylum) stood (large building in the top left hand corner).





There seem to be some records of the orphanage in Gloucestershire Archives, see here.

There is a mention of the orphanage in Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer where it is listed under Queen's Buildings:

Queen's Buildings: 14 houses off north side of High Street in Wellington Passage. 1819 map. First home of the School of Industry, later the Cheltenham Female Orphan Asylum, founded under the patronage of Queen Charlotte in 1806 (J. S. Duckworth, in TBGAS 117, p. 141) and probably so named on this account. Referred to in 1820 Paving Commissioners' Minutes (1 Mar.). Home to an 'academy' in 1826 (Bettison). Probably also accessible from Albion Street, under which it is sometimes listed (1847 directory).

Jane

Posted: 7 February 2010

I was at Cheltenham Art Gallery and Museum earlier this week and I'm pretty sure they have a painting of the orphanage and a wooden sign that used to hang outside it in their display. I may be wrong but it might be worth contacting them.


Posted: 11 February 2010

Hello, the Girls' Orphanage in Winchcombe Street, was demolished in the late 50s I think, I remember standing there as a child watching it, there is a photo of it in the local museum in Cheltenham, the cinema was called the Gaumont, later renamed the Odeon, which is now closed.

Mary

Posted: 26 March 2010

The building has been replaced by blocks of flats for elderly persons.


Posted: 12 May 2010







My great grandfather (see photos on Your Photos) born in 1857 in Somerset was a tailor who settled in Ivy Place, Charlton Kings, after his marriage. The story goes that he made 'hunting pink for the gentry' and I would love to know more about this as an occupation. He lived at 47 Naunton Crescent in 1901 and his son William was also a tailor. His daughter Blanche Mabel was a dressmaker at the time. She moved to Leicester on marrying my grandfather Frank Hancock who was a teacher. I have no idea how these two met and would also like to know if there are records of teacher training in Cheltenham before WWI.

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Posted: 29 January 2010

St. Paul's (for men) St. Mary's (women) were the Teacher Training Colleges in Cheltenham. Now the University of Gloucestershire. Records of St. Paul's and St. Mary's are held at "The Archives, University of Gloucestershire, Francis Close Hall, Swindon Road, Cheltenham."

Joyce Cummings
joyce@cyberwebspace.net

Posted: 15 July 2010







Can anyone shed any light on the SIDDALL family who lived in Cheltenham from the 1850s until relatively recently? The patriarch, William (greengrocer of Montpellier Walk) had four children, Mary Ann, William, Albert and Ernest. I am particularly keen to find out what happened to Ernest (veterinary surgeon) and his wife Edith, fomerly Wales (née Mitchell) who married in 1908.

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Posted: 29 January 2010







I am trying to find any information about an old pub called The Pilgrim which existed in Rutland Street. In the late 1800's a relative of mine was the inn keeper. I can't seem to trace any records of it at all. Many thanks for your assistance.

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John

Posted: 21 January 2010

Hello John, try this website: www.1881pubs.com.


Posted: 13 March 2010

This information is provided by Vic Cole who has researched public houses in Cheltenham - Bell Inn, 61 Sussex Street (alternative name for Rutland Street) from 1857 known as the Pilgrim Inn. He would be pleased if you could let him have any information of your ancestor for his records. Joyce Cummings, Webmaster - please note my new email address, former email address was joyce.cummings@tesco.net


Posted: 6 April 2010







I am looking for information with regard to two addressess in Cheltenham for the years 1881 to 1891. William Capper (Stonemason), Ivy Cottage, Upper Norwood Street, Cheltenham and Sarah Jones, 3 Portman Terrace, Cheltenham. They moved to Birmingham sometime in 1891. Thanks

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Posted: 18 January 2010

William Capper (Mason) lived in Belmore Place Cheltenham in 1882 according to the Cheltenham History Soc. and at 12 Queens Retreat in 1870-71. Williams Father was James Capper (Mason) and was named on Williams marriage cert 1861. Any info at all would be very welcome.


Posted: 12 February 2010







Looking for information on Charles Fowler (lived in Cheltenham), he founded Cheltenham General Hospital. He died in 1858, also when the Hospital was founded. Many thanks

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Posted: 16 January 2010

I have recently researched the beginnings of "Cheltenham General Hospital" on behalf of Cheltenham Local History Society, and can confirm the following :- Proposals were made in 1832 to set up a General Hospital in Cheltenham to replace the "Dispensary & Casualty Hospital". Funds were raised by public subscription, but insufficient money was forthcoming for a new building.

Instead, "Segrave House" in the Lower High Street was purchased together with adjoining land from Robert Capper (President of the Hospital Board) . In 1838/9 the "General Hospital & Dispensary" was now open, with a "tower" extension added. It was soon evident a larger Hospital was needed, in the mid to late 1840's the Hospital was treating about 5.000 outpatients and 300 inpatients a year, the medical staff were a house surgeon, 3 physicians and two surgeons in the Hospital, the same number at the Dispensary.The Hospital trustees still owned land in Sandford purchased in 1834 where they had intended to build a Hospital. This land proved to be the ideal site for the new General Hospital which was built in 1848 and opened in 1849. note - "Segrave House" has just been taken over by a building firm who have restored the building, and has been known for the last ten years as "Normandy House". Older Cheltonians will recall it being the offices of the Income Tax Inspector, and then named "Idmiston House"


Posted: 1 April 2010







My grandmother, Margaret Botham (Bottom), worked as a cook for Miss Hatch at 8 Worcester Crescent from about 1900 to 1902, when she moved to St. John's Road just before her marriage. Does anyone have information about 8 Worcester Crescent or Miss Hatch at that time?

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to hear from anyone who remembers Paddy and Grace Walsh who lived at Green Street Lodge, Bushley in the 1940s. I am trying to find relatives of Patrick (Paddy) Walsh, whose parents were Kate and Richard Walsh. Paddy was born in 1912 in Midleton and emigrated to Tewkesbury, England in the mid-1930s and worked as a groom. His parents were Richard and Kate Walsh, who lived at 2, Charles Steet, Midleton.

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Posted: 4 January 2010

Hello, my name is Rowland. How come come you to know about Patrick? And how come you relate to this family.


Posted: 25 January 2010







I would like to hear from the descendants of Henry Bottom (born in 1888 in English Bicknor) from Bosbury and Smethwick. His father was Thomas Bottom and his mother was Sarah (nee Price). I am also trying to trace the burial place of Sarah Bottom (nee Price), who was the second wife of my great-grandfather Thomas Bottom. They lived at Grange Farm near Bosbury 1896 to 1913. She may have moved to Kings Norton to be near her daughter Rhoda Hadley.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I am trying to trace the descendants of Sarah (nee Bottom) and John Hammonds who were married in Bosbury in Herefordshire in 1905.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to find out more information about my great-grandmother, Margaret Morgan, from Bleddfa. She was born in 1846 to John Morgan b.1813 d.1846 and Sarah (nee Stokes) b.1815. Margaret's brother was William b.1843. She married my great-grandfather, Thomas Bottom, at the Primitive Methodist Chapel at Cwm-y-Gaist in 1871 and they settled in Herefordshire.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to hear from descendants of Rhoda Harriet Hadley (nee Bottom), who married James William Hadley in Bosbury in 1914. They lived in Kings Norton for much of their life.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







I would like to trace the ancestors of my great-great grandmother, Mary Ann Barnett b.1826 in Ashton under Hill. Her parents were John Barnett (Barnard) b.1791 in Greet and Mary Holder b.1796 in Ashton under Hill.

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Posted: 4 January 2010







Does anyone have a photograph of (or information about) the railway cottages that used to stand near Ashchurch railway station (on the road to Northway)? My grandfather, Tom Barnett, (who was head signalman at the station) and his family lived in them from 1911 to 1928.

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Posted: 4 January 2010


There are still some cottages by the railway line at Ashchurch. They are behind the church and have to be reached on foot. I'm not sure if these are the ones you are asking about.


Posted: 12 February 2010







My great grandfather James White (shoe maker) was born in 1842 in Great Hampton, Worcestershire. He fathered two children born in Cheltenham - Gertrude Amelia, born in 1870, and Harriet L, born in 1872. I can find no record for Gertrude in the 1871 census. He also fathered another daughter Frances C M in 1867, born in Richmond, Surrey, then I think he fathered my illegitimate grandfather Cornelius in 1884. I am looking for any information regarding Gertrude and Harriet, both born in Cheltenham please.

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Sally Greaves
mpgshire@aol.com

Posted: 3 January 2010







I am trying to track down 1 Cleeveland Boulevard which was the last address I have for Great Great Grandmother, Jane Grinnell in the 1901 Census. I presume it was near Cleeveland Street but don't know. If anyone knows anything of this location or has any old pics or map extracts that would be very helpful please.

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Posted: 30 December 2009







Hello, I am trying to obtain a copy from the page of the Cheltenham College register for 1841-1889 where I believe there is a mention of a Conyngham Jones who was a Sandhurst army officer and later served in the Indian Mutiny and his father is named as Henry Shawe Jones. I would also be interested to learn of any other details about him or his family as this would really help me in the family history research.

Thank you

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S. Patterson

Posted: 15 December 2009







Looking for anyone who has any additional information relating to William Cull, a Cheltenham tailor. Born around 1807, married Emma Lyze 1833, Swindon Village. Lived Bishops Cleeve, possibly Woodmancote in 1841 and afterwards Cheltenham, Duke St 1851, Stanhope St 1861, Hamilton Place 1871 and White Hart 1881. Died 1882 in the Union Workhouse. Had three criminal convictions: 1831 committed to Northleach, 1854 Committed to Glos Gaol, 1857 committed to Glos jail, later moved to Millbank and Dartmoor. Had nine children before Emma's death in 1852.

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Posted: 28 November 2009

David, Checking the England & Wales Criminal Register on ancestry.co.uk, there only appears to be one Walter Cull convicted 24th October 1870 at Birmingham, Warwickshire assizes. He received seven years. If it is your man, which seems likely, he may have been sent directly to Millbank, or maybe he was tranferred to that establishment from a more local jail as was often the case. The records for admissions to Millbank are available at the National Archives and will give some additional information on Walter and whether he served his full sentence there or transfered on. The assize records should also be traceable but I am not sure where they will be. Possibly also at Kew.

On another note, Walter's father William, married to Jemima, was a carpenter and is almost certainly the gentlemen mentioned in 'Cheltenham Spa and the Berkelys 1832 -1848: Pocket Borough and Patron" by Adrian Courtney. It is about electoral corruption in Cheltenham and page 101 and 102 rather amusingly describes how William took advantage of the system to acquire additional income as well as several free meals and alcoholic refreshment. Incidently I think the address given may be wrong and I suspect he was living or working at 250 High street not 254. He was probably related to Henry Cull, the baker and his mother Mary. A link for the pdf document is: www.midlandhistory.bham.ac.uk/issues/1992/courtea.pdf


Posted: 29 November 2009







Hello.

I am interested in tracing Mary Jones b. approx. 1818 in Leckhampton, father Joseph, shoemaker. She married Charles Arnold Goldin in July 1844 in "The Parish Church, Leckhampton". A son George Arnold Goldin was born in 1848. Another son, also George Arnold Goldin was born in 1852. Presumably the first boy had died.

My quandery is, did the latter George Arnold Goldin, put Frederick in front of his first name, George? I ask this because for the last ten years I have been unable to find a Frederick George Arnold GOLDING born anywhere at all. This man is my gr.grandfather, and it is reasonable to think that the spelling of the surname had changed a bit due to possible lack of being able to read.

I have Frdk. G. A. Golding's marriage certificate though, he's living in London, and it states that he was born in Cheltenham. Any thoughts would be really appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 27 November 2009







I think I have gone as far as I can with my research on the Cypher family in Cheltenham but would love to hear from any members of this family in case it gives me some more information that I can work with. Any photos of the Cypher Nurseries in Queens Road would also be most appreciated.

Many thanks

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Posted: 26 November 2009

Not sure that I will be able to help, but it would be interesting to see. Many thanks,


Posted: 13 May 2010







Hi, I am hoping someone will be able to help or advise me. I have found out that my Great Great Grandfather Frederick William Haines was adopted. He was born in 1873. In the 1881 census he was noted as adopted by John and Jane Haines (John was born in Cheltenham and Jane from Gloucester). They lived in Cheltenham with Frederick Haines.

In the 1881 census the birth place of Frederick William Haines was London, Middlesex. But in the 1891 census his birth place was Croydon, Surrey. I have order numerous birth certificates but have not found any information.

John Haines's occupation was a local Painter. He was born in 1842 and Jane (maiden name was Keen) was born in 1843. I am hoping that there is some information about the Haines Family. I am hoping someone had written a book about the local history and might have mentioned something about the family. Maybe there was something in the local newspaper about the adoption or the family. Maybe there was a story of a single women in the area who went to London to give birth to a baby boy?

I am just looking for any information about my great great grandfathers adoption and any leads on why he was put up for adoption. Would this information exist? Can you advise me where else to look? Or should I give up on trying to finding information on the adoption or the family?

Thanks

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Rhian

Posted: 18 November 2009


Not sure if it is of any help but there was a family called Haines living in Rowanfield Road, Cheltenham. The one I knew used to keep a newsagents stall on Lansdown Station. His name was Lesley Haines and I believe he lived alone with his brother. This would have been in the 1950s I think, he would have been aged about 45 / 55 at that time, it's difficult to tell as I was just a paper boy then.


Posted: 1 December 2009







I am interested in any families with name DEAN living in Cheltenham before 1860. My GGGrandfather Giles Dean was married in Cheltenham to a Hannah Webber in 1833. He was a whitesmith in the 1851 Census. Moved to Manchester 1853/4.

Cheers

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Posted: 10 November 2009







Gday, I have in my posession a Ladies book of Friendship. Her name was Miss Hurst and she resided at The Ladies College in Bath Road. (1866) There are many entries here and they are all hand written. Many are drawings by James Loveday, 1865 and others are by Sprague, 1866. The book contains photographs of John Bryant of St. Luke's Boys School? I believe Miss Hurst would have been either a student or a teacher. I would dearly love someone to help me with the intruiging mysteries of this beautiful book and I am willing to Attach downloads to help with any investigations. I have sent a few emails to the schools but have no reply which I think is rather sad. So I will keep my fingers crossed and hope you can help me.

Many thanks to you all.

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Posted: 30 October 2009

Cheltenham Ladies College was established at Cambray House in 1853 and opened in 1854. In 1873 work was transfered to new buildings in Bayshill Road Cheltenham, still there today. Miss Beale was the first principle. There was a St.Lukes School in Bath Road, not there now, If you would like to email/download information you have regarding Miss Hirst & Friendship Book, we will look at it.


Posted: 12 May 2010







Patricia Mary Hewitt was the name given to me by my mother Helena May Hewitt from Cheltenham - born 1913. I was born in 1946 in Bristol. Does anyone have any information about my mother or her family - Hewitt and Waghorne? My name now is Marian Boughton.

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Patricia Mary Hewitt
m.boughton@tiscali.co.uk

Posted: 20 October 2009







I live in Cornwall and I am following up relatives of my wife. In 1881 a relative was at Stamford House. As there were numerous male boarders I wonder whether it was an instution. My interest is Benjamin Hawken, aged about 23. I have tried doing a direct search without sucess.

Thanks

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Ray

Posted: 12 October 2009

The young men at Stamford House in the 1881 census are "live in" drapery assistants employed by "Debenham & Hewitt". Female shop assistants were also housed in the same manner by their employers. Debenham & Hewitt exhibited Furniture in 1883 at the Agricultural Hall. Their main premises, with a warehouse, were numbers 62/63 Regent Street, Cheltenham, near to County Court Road, and now part of Cavendish House. Stamford House stood further along Regent Street, the site is now the entrance/exit to the Regent Arcade car park.


Posted: 20 October 2009







Hello, I'm searching for the boarding nursery [school] I was sent in 1944 - I was 3 yrs old - in Cheltenham. How would I find this? Are there old directories? I think the name was M[H[um[n]fries/Munford/Montford. Not much to go on, but I think my half brother was also there and I'm searching for him.

Regards

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Julie

Posted: 27 September 2009

Hi, You may find it usefull to contact the main library at cheltenham,glos. They have a great local history section, staff are always willing to point you in the right direction. Good Luck


Posted:22 July 2010







I'm looking for more information about the Tanner family and can only trace back to my great grandparents - Arthur John Tanner 1876 - 1955 and Georgina (?) 1881 - 1939. They lived in 6 Edward Street Leckhampton in 1911 but later moved to Naunton Crescent. They had 7 daughters May, Daisy, Blanche, Jessica, Violet, Dorothy and Beatrice. I would love to know more about Georgina - there is a family tale that she grew up in Cranham.

Thanks

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Sally Prosser

Posted: 17 September 2009

I am tracing my paternal family tree. My grandfather Ernest George Tanner was born in 1913 to a Gladys May Tanner, no father is on the certificate, address given was 9a Lower Vaynor Road, Cefn Coed, Upper Merthyr Tydfil. He was given away not adopted to a family Percy Olding from Frome somerset and Charlotte Davied from Bargoed. I have hit a dead end. Story goes Gladys was sent to America after giving birth (no reason given) and that the Oldings were my grandfathers great aunt and uncle (not sure how true this is) I have noticed you have Tanners in your tree and as it was quite an unusual name at that point was wondering if you have any of these people in your tree. I would be truly grateful for a response.


Posted: 19 March 2011







I'm a Cheltonian living in the Middle East at present, so my research is all online at the moment. I am researching my Grandfather's family. Alphonse de Van Meulbrouck (born about 1847) was from Roubaix, France. I'm not sure when he arrived in UK but his wife Elenor was from Worcester. They ran a common lodging house on Grove Street (nos 2 & 4). Their son Alphonse Meulbrouck (the de van started to disappear in some records) born in about 1876 married Edith Jane (from Cheltenham) in 1896 and also ran a common lodging house Cumberland Villas, Grove Street. I am interested in any photos of the street prior to 1920 as many of the houses were demolished. Any information especially about their spouses would be great.

Thanks

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Sally Prosser

Posted: 15 September 2009

Hi, I would be pleased if you could contact me.

Thanks, Ted.

Edouard J Meulbrouck
eddie-lily29@hotmail.com

Posted: 9 November 2009

Hi, I had sent you a email to your (I believe) email address but it has returned. I do hope you receive this one. If it is alright with you, I will email you with I hope more infomation.


Posted: 13 November 2009

Hi Ted, Have resent my e-mail address to you. Hope it works. Cheers

Sally

Posted: 14 November 2009

Hi there,

My name is Georgette Way (nee Halliday). My mother is Vivienne Janet Halliday (nee Meulbrouck) born 19 January 1936. She has a brother, still alive called Brian Meulbrouck, who lives in Gloucester. My grandfather (her father) was Alphonse August (Van der) Meulbrouck. Sadly, he died around 1984/5? I have a funny feeling, that we may be the people you are looking for. Having read your posting, it all fits.

From old papers and spoken history, I am led to believe that my great grandfather (not sure of the name) came to England from what is now Belgium to teach French at the Cheltenham Boys College as was. We have papers dating back years with military references and reference to one of my ancestors being a Count Van der Meulbrouck. The more I think about it, the more I think it is us you are looking for. If you would like to get in touch, please do email me, or contact my mother, who has photos, papers etc on 01242 566234.

Regards


Posted: 28 May 2010







Louisa Little (known as Mary) married my great-grandfather Charles Cook. Her mother Frances Cross (c.1820-1848) is known to be married to James Little b. in Cheltenham 1812, a plasterer. However, I cannot trace Frances' birth or her marriage to James (thought to be 1842-3). The family believe that the Crosses had a musical background. Also there is a family tale that Frances was the offspring of a French noble family (De Croy or Du Cros) who escaped France from either the French Revolution or the Napoleonic Wars. Certainly, my ancestors all spoke a smattering of very good French despite their occasional impoverishment. Where did this come from? Louisa's husband, Charles, was one of the younger Cook siblings of that very large family of market gardeners who owned and operated in Alstone and Little Swindon for nearly two hunded years. I should be grateful for any help in finding more about Frances and would welcome information, stories, photos of the Cook Family.

Thank you.

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Posted: 15 September 2009







My family include the Hailing(s) or Hayling(s), lots of whom were from Cheltenham. My gg uncle was Thomas HAILING who lived with his large family at Bromland (or Broomland) House, Oxford Passage, Cheltenham. He was apprenticed to Thomas WILLEY a well known local figure and chartist who lived there before him. Thomas WILLEY was born in Bristol c.1795 and died in 1861. The HAILING name was also spelt HAYLING and several of the male Haylings were boot/shoemakers and cordwainers in Cheltenham. I've never visited the town but would love to know whether Bromland House and Oxford Passage is still standing. Perhaps even to see a photograph. I believe the printing business survived until 1956.

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Posted: 12 September 2009

Hi Joanie,

Firstly - I'm unrelated to either the Willey or the Hailing families! But I (and others) have done quite a bit of work on Thomas Willey - Roy Palmer has written an article on him for the National Dictionary of Biography. Prior to that he wrote a brief life at http://www.mustrad.org.uk/enth33.htm

I have photocopies of all the Willey broadsheets that are at Cambridge, but there are other scattered around. I'm also interested in the Hailing family, although they didn't do so much in the ballad printing way, but did fine printing of which I've seen many examples.

Peter Smith, who died last year and who I knew through the local history society was a distant relative of the Hailing family and we compared notes, so I've got various information, including obituaries in the local paper, which I could send you if you're interested.

As far as Oxford Passage is concerned, it was virtually next door to the Elizabethan Grammar School in Cheltenham High Street (my father remembers it well and remembers the print shop). However the whole block was demolished in 1965-6 to make way for an brutalist concret block containing Tesco and other shops.

A local architect called Patterson photographed most of the buildings of Cheltenham before they were demolished during this period, but he didn't catalogue his work very well and there are several thousand photographs in the Glocuesterhire Record Office - I'm still looking though!

I'm doing a bit of a family tree on Ancestry which I'd be happy for you to have a look at as well. Sorry it's taken me so long to see your posting, but hope this is of interest.


Posted: 28 March 2011







I am just starting the search for my ancestors, who seem to have derived from Cheltenham. I have got as far as George Ellis, who married an Ann - poss Humphriss in 1841. He was a painter and glazier, which I discovered on this site. I am now looking for his father and above, which is proving difficult as earlier than records online - can anyone help?

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Posted: 28 August 2009

Hi Gill, possible baptism for George Ellis is on IGI - 04 APR 1817 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England. Father Robert Ellis, mother Sarah.

Hope this helps.

Alice

Posted: 22 August 2009







Hi, I am trying to find more info on my grandfather's wood yard that he had before the First World War, it was situated in Milsom St. He used to take wood around by horse and cart. My mum used to work there chopping wood into small bundles for kindling. The family name was Regan's.

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Posted: 22 August 2009







Does anyone have or know where I can get any information about the workhouse which I think was in the St.Pauls area in Cheltenham. My relatives were there in 1948!

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Posted: 20 August 2009

Hi, if you Google Union Workhouse Cheltenham you should find some details about it, my G.G.Uncle and his wife was there between 1885 & 1901. Good luck


Posted: 22 August 2009

The site is now occupied by the 'St. Paul's Medical Centre. The only original building remaining from the workhouse days is the Chapel which are used as offices.


Posted: 28 November 2009







I am trying to trace my family tree with limited information. My grandfather's name was Alfred or Alfie Morris and his wife was Ethel. I know this was Ethel's second marriage and that she had at least two children before she met my grandfather. They lived and died in Pates Ave. They had four children together Derek, David, Janet, and Esme. Any information about Alfie or Ethel would be appreciated.

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Posted: 13 August 2009

It would help if you added dates and places of research. Probably there are many of us on this list that have access to research tools, but need more info than just names to do a look up.


Posted: 13 September 2009

Pates Avenue was built around 1934 and most of the families came from the slum clearences in Cheltenham (St.Pauls & St.Peters area), I have photocopies of the street directory for between 1935 -36 and the Morrises was living at no 19. David Morris lived there after Alfred died, David married and had children then they moved around the 1970s to Welsh Rd, I still see one of his children around town. My grandparents & parents lived in Pates Ave as well. Hope this starts you off.


Posted: 7 August 2010







Does anybody have any information or photographs of 14 Sun Street and 31 Sun Street from the 1860s? My ancestors lived there in 1861. Many thanks

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Posted: 12 August 2009

Hi, The original houses of Sun Street were demolished in the mid 50's to make way for new housing which was completed in 1960. My grandmother who lives in Sun Street and had done since 1960, tells me that the orignal houses were old terraced stone built with arched doorways. Hope this helps.


Posted: 4 May 2011







I recently discovered that one of my great-grandfather's brothers, called Sampson Newman, died in Cheltenham in 1926. At the time of his death, he was living at 1 Pittville Lawn, which I understand was - and possibly still is - a very prestigious address. I wonder, therefore, whether he might have been a well-known citizen of the town (although I rather doubt this, as he was described as a retired metal polish salesman on his death certificate). I would be extremely grateful for any information - either on this address or on my ancestor.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

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Jonathan Newman
primpark@ntlworld.com

Posted: 10 August 2009

Hi Jonathan,

In Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858/9, Nobility, Gentry & Clergy section it lists Newman Edward Lambert, Esq., living at 1 Pittville lawn. It might be just a coincidence but it's possible that there is some connection with Sampson.

Alice

Posted: 11 August 2009

Hi Jonathan,

I was interested to read your post as it mentioned the name Newman. I am researching my family history, Taylor, and found that my great great great grandfather was the illegitimate son of Margaret Taylor and John Newman. Seems for some reason William ended up with his mother's surname rather than his father's. I wonder if you have come across John Newman of Gloucestershire in your research?

Regards

Caroline

Posted: 11 August 2009

Hi Alice and Caroline,

Thanks for your replies. I'm almost sure that William Lambert and John were not members of my family. In fact, my family has had no previous connection to Cheltenham - apart from Sampson. He was born in Dudley, so I have no idea how he ended up in Cheltenham. I suppose it's possible that this Sampson was not a member of my family, but his wife's name was Janet - the same as my relative's - so I think it's unlikely that there could be two Sampson and Janet Newmans. Also, when he died - in 1926 - his age was given as 73. He was actually 72, but this is close enough to make me think that the man who died at 1 Pittville Lawn was my relative.

Thanks again for your help.


Posted: 12 August 2009







I am looking for any information on my great uncle William Mason, I believe he had a coal and wood business in Charlton Kings, he ran the business with his son. His father, mother and sister are all buried in St. Mary's church, they all once lived in Laurel Villa, overlooking the church.

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Posted: 8 August 2009







I am looking for any information regarding The Broom family. Samuel (1855) used to be with fire brigade believe they lived in King Street, Cheltenham, married Louisa Carter from Tewksbury Road in 1874. Any info on this family, their children, or siblings would be great. Also looking for anything on Lilian Holt (1885) who married Samuel's son Francis on 15 April 1911.

Many thanks

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Posted: 3 August 2009







Hi, my paternal great grand father Alfred John Mason lived in Laurel Villa on Horesfair road opposite St Mary's church, he died in 1946. He had a son called William Alfred Mason who ran a coal business in the Charlton Kings area. Has anyone got any information or photos?

Thank you

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Posted: 2 August 2009







My paternal grandfather, Robert William Wallis, worked for Cheltenham Gas Company in the 1940s. Does anyone have any ideas about how I could find out a bit more about what he would have done, his qualifications, etc. Any tips would be much appreciated.

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Bod Harris

Posted: 31 July 2009

Cheltenham Gas Company employed a great many men in various trades. What does his death certificate give for his occupation?


Posted: 16 August 2009


I would be grateful for any information about the Gas Co. My mother worked there in the offices in North Street in the 1940's.


Posted: 25 August 2009







I am trying to identify the origins of our surname and our family tree as there are very few of us in the UK & Ireland. There appears to be some form of a link to Cheltenhan in Gloucestershire due to it being the only place in the country where there is a Tatchley House and Tatchley Lane. Can anyone tell me anything else about the origins of our name of how Tatchley House and Tatchley Lane came to be named as such?

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Tanya Tatchley

Posted: 30 July 2009

Hi Tanya,

Historical Gazetteer of Cheltenham has this entry regarding Tatchley place names in Cheltenham:

Tatchley Lane, Prestbury. Eastern end of New Barn Lane, from Burgage to roundabout; 1884 map, and doubtless earlier. Earliest reference to a settlement here is 1686: 'my house in Tacheley' (will; personal communication Mrs Beryl Elliott); apparent variant Tott's Low seen in Civil War period, and in 1767 rendered as Tacklow (pc BE).

T(h)atchley Villa is listed in Prestbury Road in 1837 and 1839 directories. Tatchley Villas, Prestbury. No. 3 noted in 1844 directory. Now nos. 326-30 Prestbury Road (Cheltenham Local History Society Journal 16, p. 47).

Hope this helps.

Jane

Posted: 31 July 2009







I am looking for information on Herbert George Mason (my grandfather) who lived in Vine Cottage, Charlton Kings with his mother father 3 brothers and 1 sister in 1911. I believe one brother Frederick Horace Mason had a lot to do with the church in Charlton Kings. I am just starting out and would be grateful of any help. Thank you.

Best regards

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Posted: 30 July 2009

Contact me on my private email charles.callvert@gmail.com and will enlighten you more about that.


Posted: 16 February 2010







I am researching Margaret Mackay, who died at 36 Montpellier Terrace on 5 January 1887. Was there a hotel at that address on that date? If so, what was its name? Any further information about Mrs. Mackay appreciated.

Thank you very much.

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Marylin

Posted: 26 July 2009

Most probably this was a "lodging house" of which Cheltenham had many. Rooms were let either singly or as a suite.


Posted: 20 October 2009







Hi Through researching my family tree I have repeatedly heard a story about one of my ancestors being mayor of cheltenham for a time. I wonder if anyone has any information or useful links on past mayors? My earliest relative is a Thomas Robertson who hails from Cheltenham but he was a carpenter!!

Thanks

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Posted: 23 July 2009

Hi Brett,

you can find a list of past Cheltenham Mayors at www.trase.co.uk/cheltold/mayors.htm

Alice

Posted: 24 July 2009







My dad, Robert Greeves Raymond Wallis, worked as an aircraft fitter during WW2 somewhere in the Cheltenham area. My sister believes the factory was called Dowty's. Can anyone tell me any more about this?

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Posted: 18 July 2009

Here is a website about George Dowty who was the founder of the company www.spiritus-temporis.com/george-dowty


Posted: 30 June 2009

Here is an article Dowty, The First 50 Years — A Golden Review 1931–1981 www.emeraldinsight.com


Posted: 30 October 2009







Hi, I'm looking for any information/photos on a dairy at 5 Gloucester Road in 1891. One of my ancestors, Thomas Austin, was a dairyman there in 1891, it's hard to make out from the census, but the dairy may have been known as "Honeyville Dairy".

Many thanks

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Posted: 7 July 2009







Looking for information on the family of Rev. James Taylor and Eliza Odella nee Curran (daughter of John Philpot Curran) They lived at St Albans House Cheltenham, for many years incumbent of Clifton. I have death notice of Eliza.

Thanks

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Posted: 7 July 2009







I am researching my family history of the Bridgman family who moved to Cheltenham/Chartlon Kings area around 1810 from Mortonhampstead in Devon. Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: 30 June 2009







I have ancestors who lived at Number 3 Trinity Terrace in Cheltenham. Can anyone tell me the exact location of this address, I cannot seem to find it on Google Earth or any maps.

Thanks

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Brian

Posted: 27 June 2009

Numbers 1 to 6 Trinity Terrace is in Portland Street, the terrace of houses run from the Pittville side of Trinity Church, to the the footpath which runs from Portland Street to Winchcombe Street. Many years ago the houses were numbered, and No. 3 Trinity Terrace was then numbered 51 Portland Street.


Posted: 30 June 2009







I would appreciate some help on discovering information about my great-great-great-grandmother, Jane Hooper, born in Cheltenham about 1793. (She married a John Barnard about 1819, and had three sons, including my great-great-grandfather, William Hooper Barnard who immigrated to New Zealand.) I have spent many days at the LDS library in Salt Lake City and months searching the internet. Apart from census information, I know nothing about her. Any information appreciated.

Thank you so much.

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Judith Meyer nee Barnard

Posted: 25 June 2009







Hello, I'm doing some family history research and have found a lot of relatives from Cheltenham. In 1871, my great great grandparents lived in Kew Place. The census shows that most of the women in that area were laundresses, or in one case, an ironer. I wondered if anyone knew whether there was a laundry or perhaps hotel or large establishment in that area, that they may have worked for, at that time?

Thank you for your help.

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Sue Bowyer

Posted: 23 June 2009







Hi, any info on Harriet Phillips parents. Harriet would have been born about 1846 in Cheltenham according to the census. She married Thomas Surman, I would be grateful for any help.

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Wendy

Posted: 22 June 2009







Hi, I am looking for any information on the Poytress family and Surman family, of Cheltenham.

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Wendy

Posted: 12 June 2009

Wendy, please contact me with more details and I am sure I can help you.


Posted: 11 August 2009

My wife grandmother was Nora Poytress who married R L Dance. I am interested to know who was the father of Charles Poytress 1810.


Posted: 4 April 2010







Advice please on a simple entry, bishops transcripts Cheltenham, 21.12.1803 William son of Willm and Mary Hays. Any suggestions as to how I might possibly get behind that entry, or even in front: Rate books, employment, or whatever. The younger William turned up in Kendal 1832. I have not been able to trace his parents or anything else up till then, or any trace whatsoever of his parents.

Many thanks

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Posted: 7 June 2009







Walter Morris Cull was born in Cheltenham in 1852. In the 1861 census he is at home with his parents William b. 1821/2 and Jemima (nee Wells) b. 1820/1. In the 1871 census he appears to be a convict in Millbank prison, London. His profession is noted as "Printer, compositor". I have been unable to find any trace of him after that census despite checking Censuses, Marriage, Death registrations and even passenger/emigration records. I would love to discover where he offended, what his crime/sentence was and whatever became of him. If anyone reading this has access to Gloucestershire court records for that period then I would be most grateful if they could take a look to see if there is any record relating to him.

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David

Posted: 5 June 2009

Hi David, Walter appears to have died in millbank prison. The ancestry web site has a photo of the burial ground


Posted: 8 December 2010







My grandfather came to Cheltenham, to a convalescent home run by Courtaulds Textiles. It no longer exists. Does any one know where it was ? He came sometime between 1950 and 1960.

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Posted: 28 May 2009

Hello Kerry,

Courtaulds Convalescent Home was situated at Cleeve Hill. It was built in 1892-93, in connection with Cheltenham General Hospital when it was called The Cotswold Convalescent Home. It was bought by Courtaulds Ltd. for use as a private home in c.1920, and was still in use in 1939. The records for the home are deposited in Gloucestershire Archives in Gloucester. A photo of Courtaulds Convalescent Home taken about 1960 is available from Francis Frith collection.





Alice

Posted: 29 May 2009







I was recently looking through some old family trinkets and coins and found a token coin value one penny, on the reverse side is written a pound note for 240 tokens given by John Bishop & Co. Cheltenham dated 1812. As my Great grandfather's family lived around that area, I was interested to know of the history. Any help appreciated.

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Martin Page

Posted: 21 May 2009

Hi,

Re the token. I cannot supply you with any additional information suffice that on a metal detecting day out in a field at Coberley today I unearthed the very same token. It appears there is a Cheltenham scene on the other side. None of my fellow detectorists have seen such a token so I was very taken with this find. In those days tokens were very much an alternative to coinage in various local communities.

Regards

John Feenan in Quedgeley
john.feenan@blueyonder.co.uk

Posted: 21 March 2010

Hi,

It seems that BISHOP John & Co were Linen Drapers of Cheltenham and in 1812 they issued trade tokens. You can find more information in the book "Trade Tokens" by J.R.S. Whiting, on page 161 and 164. Merchant and trade tokens were issued in an emergency situation, one in which the production and distribution of normal media of exchange had become inadequate.

Regards

Jane

Posted: 15 July 2010







I have information on Wilkins family of Cheltenham, one of whom, Charles James, emigrated to New Zealand in 1873. His father was John Wilkins, a school master at Fair View infants school and his grandfather William is listed in the 1841 census as occupation w(h)arfinger, living at Tram Road Wharf, Cheltenham. Was there a wharf in Cheltenham and if so where was it? It is not on any maps I have viewed.

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Posted: 18 May 2009

Hello Roger,

There were several wharves in Cheltenham, along the Gloucester to Cheltenham Railroad where stone was unloaded from the tram, stored and worked on. One was in what is now Painswick Road, which was the main stone depot in the 1820s-30s on the railroad down from Leckhampton quarry, a coal wharf was in the lower High Street where the Leckhampton railroad was joining the railroad to Gloucester, another stone wharf was then in Gloucester Road (near today's Stoneville Street). You need to have a look at the census which streets were in the vicinity to determine which wharf it was.

Hope this helps.

Allan

Posted: 19 May 2009

Hello Allan,

Thank you for your kind reply. What I hadn't considered was that the term "wharf" could be applied to railroad loading/unloading points. I had always thought of it as referring to waterborne cargo only. I've learn't something. I will also check adjoining addresses to get a clearer picture of this location as you suggest.

Kind regards,


Posted: 23 May 2009







Was Mill St. in Prestbury called Mill Lane in 1919?

Thanks

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Kim

Posted: 14 May 2009

Hi Kim,

Some of my ancestors came from Mill Lane and Mill Street, Prestbury. Mill Street was in the village of Prestbury and as it went up the hill it became Mill Lane. It's still there now. Hope it helps


Posted: 19 May 2009

Thank you for your reply. I asked the question because I was reading an article about the Pass family living in Ivy Cottage on Mill Lane, Prestbury in 1919. I know the area because my wife's uncle lives in Ivy Cottage on Mill Street today. I didn't know of an Ivy Cottage on Mill Lane so I was thinking it may be the same cottage.

Thank you again

Kim

Posted: 19 May 2009

I now live in Court Cottage, Mill Lane and as far as I can make out the road has been called that for a very long time. However to many Prestbury residents, Mill Lane and Mill St are the same so in old censuses, householders would have put Mill St down as their address, even when living in Mill Lane!

Monica

Posted: 24 June 2011







I am trying to trace any members of the SOLLORS family, in particular my GG Grandfather Walter SOLLORS, born 19 Dec 1876. He married Agnes Mary SOLLORS, born 12 Feb 1869, died on 22 Dec 1906. They lived at 8 Cleveland Buildings, Cleveland Street, St. Peter's up til about 1908 when my Grandfather Ewart Walter Sollars (he changed the spelling) was born on 12 April 1908. His mother was still living at the address according to the 1911 cenusus but I can find no mention of his father Walter after this but have been able to find out he died in Birmingham on 3 Aug 1958. My grandfather was brought up by someone we only know as 'Granny Little' who owned a shop on Swindon Road, Cheltenham. My Grandfather worked when he left school for a wine merchants called Martins before moving to Essex. Any information anyone has on this would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Posted: 14 May 2009

In 1927 Kelly's Street Directory there is Henry Little, grocer at 7 Swindon Terrace, Swindon Road, this is on the corner with Baker Street, which is the next street to Cleeveland Street. The shop is now renumbered 156 Swindon Road. Also, in 1927 living at No. 8 Cleeveland Buildings is Harry J. Little. No Sollors living in Cheltenham in that directory.


Posted: 24 May 2009







Researching the Newman Family in and around Prestbury. Would like to hear from anyone researching the same name.

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Sandie Newman
sanjons@msn.com

Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Sandie,

There are a few of us researching this family. The lot I am interested in come from Longdon in Worcestershire. They seem to have moved to the Longdon / Eldersfield / Forthampton area when Robert Newman bought Forthampton House from the Earl of Dorset in 1679. Drop me a line and perhaps we can work out where you fit in.

Cheers


Posted: 11 December 2009







I am trying to gain information about the Company H.H.Martyn's of Cheltenham; my grandfather - Samuel Henry PARKER (often reversed the first names) moved from Devon to work for them sometime between 1899 and 1901. The family then removed to London to enable Henry to work on War Memorials from 1918. He died in 1918 from the flu epidemic. The family then moved back to Cheltenham - to 45, Arle drive, Cheltenham. I am interested in all aspects of this including any photos with named people. I should add I have Cheltenham in Old Photos - Vol 2 featuring Martyn's and also the published "biography" of Martyn's - no help for my search.

Many thanks

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Posted: 21 Apr 2009

Hello Jackie,

I'm not sure whether you have this photo. It's from Images of England - Cheltenham Volume II. The caption says that the photo is believed to be staff of HHMartyn & Co. at the Sunningend Works, Lansdown, third left bottom row Mr. Bliss.



Jane

Posted: 27 Apr 2009

There is a very large informative book on the work of H. H. Martyn & Co published in 1998 by Promenade Publications, Cheltenham, entitled "The Best" by John Whitaker ISBN No. 0 9529382 1 9 Webmaster - I will also reply personally & do a look-up for them.


Posted: 5 May 2009

Hi, My name is Cliff Greet and I am the GG Nephew of HH Martyn and live in Queensland Australia, Charles William emigrated to Australia and settled nr Tamworth in New South Wales .Charles William (junior) is my GG Grandfather. I acn probably help with the Australian Branch of the Family if you need this. Regarding HH Martyn there is a very substantial book about the Company called "The Best HH Martyn and Co" written by Sir Hugh Casson - the book is out of print but copies are are available on the second hand market. Any info you could provide me with would be appreciated

Thanks


Posted: 21 May 2010







Hi, I have a Thomas Barnett, born in Bishop Cleeve 1785-1791 and would like to know if anyone has any details of this family?

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Dawn

Posted: 19 Apr 2009

If you send me your email I will forward on to a Mr P. Barrett of Norwich who has just found a Mr William hh Barrett, born in Norwich who was a drill instructor. He has all the details, there may be a link. I also have some Barrett/s from Shudy Camps, Cambridge.

Regards


Posted: 17 October 2009

Hi there I have a Mary Barnett, daughter of John Barnett, from Bishops Cleeve in my family. Mary was married to Robert William Mayall, son of my 3rd great grandfather. I can let you have what information I have.

Regards


Posted: 22 April 2010







I am looking for information about my ancestor Amy NASH who I believe was christened in Charlton Kings, 29/1/1837, parents Richard and Maria NASH. Amy married John Ball CURREY in 1857 in Toxteth Park, Lancaster. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

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Judy Thompson, NSW, Australia
thomptrees@bigpond.com

Posted: 19 Apr 2009

Hi, my ancestors were from Great Witcombe, Glos. Walter William Nash, born 1790, gentleman farmer, his son William Nash, born 1840, had sons Frank Watts Nash 1865, Giles Nash 1870, William Nash 1873. William was a farmer, lived in Bentham, had a son called Nelson. Skillicorn Nash family may also be related, first mayor of Cheltenham. Dr Thomas Nash, rector of Great Witcombe was the father of Richard Skilicorn Nash. Still researching, best of luck.

Regards


Posted: 16 April 2010







Hello!

First off, I must say what a fantastic site and very helpful!

I am researching my family tree and have found reference in the 1841 census that they lived in Fairveiw St, Cheltenham, in the district of Cheltenham Union. However on this site I see he lived at 6 Orchard St as well.

Charles Humphreys (Chairmaker) born 1791,
Wife Mary born also in 1791.
Children: Charles and Sarah both aged 25, Louisa aged 16 and George aged 14 and Charlotte aged 11.

However there is also a Mary Ann Bush and a little Charles aged 1. I am assuming Charles, aged 25 was the father of little Charles. I have been trying to obtain a number in Fairveiw St so I might get a picture of whatever is there now, as well as Orchard St.

Also if there are any relatives out there still in Cheltenham, I would love to hear from them.

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Mark Humphreys, Tasmania
thehumphreys@gmail.com

Posted: 17 Apr 2009







I am trying to establish if any old photographs exist of the Doxsey Coachbuilding/Coachpainting families that lived in Cheltenham in the 19th century. I have a reasonable amount of knowledge of the family tree but would very much like to locate related photos, ideally with a view to copying/purchasing. The main families were Andrew (born 1816 Prestbury), his son Andrew Robert (born 1841 London) and his son Andrew Robert (born 1875 Cheltenham). They operated from St. Georges St and St. Georges Place, Cheltenham. Any leads/suggestions gratefully received.

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Roland Doxsey
radoxsey@talktalk.net

Posted: 11 Apr 2009

Hi, I am sorry I don't have photographs of Doxsey Coachbuilders. This family however is part of my tree, I have details back to 1714. It is interesting that one generation is caochbuilder/painters although in different areas, even Australia. Would like to exchange notes.

E. Davis

Posted: 16 August 2009

Hi,

Thank you very much for your response, very happy to explore mutual interest, my email is radoxsey@talktalk.net so suggest you contact me direct. Look forward to hearing from you. (sorry for delay, have been away).

Regards

Roland Doxsey
radoxsey@talktalk.net

Posted: 21 August 2009







Could anyone out there help. I am looking for info on George Grizzell, the father of one of my ancestors. I know he lived in Kemerton in 1848.

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Mollie Cross

Posted: 4 Apr 2009

Hello Mollie,

1851 census:
George Grizzell b.1815 Kemerton, Gloucestershire
Haanah Grizzell b. 1815 Bredon
James C Grizzell b. 1850 Kemerton, Gloucestershire

There is a death of a James Clement Grizzell 1852 in the Tewkesbury district.

In the 1861 census only George and Hannah are living in Kemerton. George and Hannah appear in 1871 census age 57 and 56. George died in 1874 and Haanah died in 1875 age 61 in the Tewkesbury district


Posted: 13 Apr 2009

Hi Mollie,

Your George Grizzel is the descendant of the cordwainer, John Grizzel of Alderton. John was born abt 1715, location unknown. He married Elizabeth Wood in Bishops Cleeve in April of 1740. Their first child, Elizabeth was born in Bishops Cleeve shortly thereafter (baptised in Sept 1740). The family then moved on to Alderton, where John and Elizabeth had another 10 children, every two years almost on the dot. Their second born child, John (1742, baptised 13 Sept) is George's line. John married his first wife, Mary Millington in Alderton in 1763. John and Mary had three children, only two lived and their fates are unknown. Mary died less than a month after the baptism of their third son, James in 1769. John remarried in 1772 to Mary Kent in Kings Stanley. John and the new Mary lived or moved to Kemerton, where John was also a cordwainer, like his father and many of his brothers. John and Mary (Kent) had 5 children: Charles (1773), Bettey (1775), John (1776), Mary (1782), and James (1785). James married Jane Reeve in 1808 (23 April) at St. Nicholas Church in Kemerton. Your George was born in 1813 and baptised on 25 April 1813 at St. Nicholas Church. I have records from Kemerton for only one other son, William born in 1809. Jane died in 1816. James remarried in 1818 to Ann Booth in Kemerton. The Grizzel family were shoemakers and in Kemerton, they lived on Church Street near the old mill, the ruins of which are still found behind St. Nicholas Church. I am also very interested in this family, as my line comes down from James's brother, John. I would love to know more about your George and his family.

Hope you find this interesting.


Posted: 23 Jun 2009







Bruce Margrett is a member 461 of the Guild of One Name Studies (since 1984), researching all traces of the family name MARGRETT(S) which has more than 30 varient and devient spellings. Not to be confused (generally) with MARGETTS for which other 'GOONS' members are researching. Card index of over 2500 traces. Many of the ancestors come from Cheltenham and and Gloucestershire generally. All enquiries answered.

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Posted: 28 Mar 2009







Establishing a family tree and need details on relatives and descendants of JOSEPH JAMES BOOY born Cheltenham 1902 later moved to Glamorgan Wales early 1900's. Your input will be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 20 Mar 2009







Hi, trying to find the parents of Elizabeth Bean. I think her family may have come from Gloucestershire because she went there to marry and then returned to live in Surrey after the wedding. She married 19 Nov 1832 at Charlton Kings, Gloucester to James Wilson. Does anybody have access to these records and can see if her parents are mentioned on the marriage entry. Are there other Bean people living in Gloucester around this time who could be her parents or siblings? According to the census returns, she herself was born in Surrey so that just confuses the issue. Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted: 18 Mar 2009







Could you please anyone tell me if Middle Street still exist in Bishops Cleeve. This is were my wife's GGGrand father lived as a farmer of 20 acers, his name was William Taylor James.

Thank you

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James Mackay

Posted: 16 Mar 2009







Is any one researching the Little family of Leckampton/Cheltenham. I have few brick walls which I would love to knock down. I am looking for info on a James Little, born 1811 in Cheltenham, he married Mary/Marie and had a daughter Louisa who married a Charles Cook. Thanks for any help.

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Posted: 15 Mar 2009

Hi, I have 'Little' in my family tree mostly born in Badgeworth. Patience Little 1873, John Little 1840, William Little 1809. I am not sure if we have any links.

Thanks


Posted: 1 Jun 2009







We are trying to find the origins of William Cooper, who was born in Tewkesbury in about 1855. We have not found an exact match for his birth and he does not appear to have been baptised. He married Hannah Elizabeth Juggins in Gloucester in Oct 1875 when they were both under age and had two sons: Arthur William and Herbert Sydney. In 1881 they were living in Birdlip cottages, Cheltenham. Hope someone can help

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Posted: 12 Mar 2009







Trying find any information on a Thomas Adderley born around 1813 & married to ?Eliza Newman? He was a timber merchant living in Bath Parade I think. He disappears after the 1841 census, I can find no record of his death or burial (or their marriage for that matter!). Eliza and her children subsequently moved to Windsor and then London.

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Posted: 5 Mar 2009

Hello,

Thomas Adderley appears in Harper's Cheltenham Directory & Guide from 1844:
Adderley Thomas, timber merchant, 4 Bath parade


Jane

Posted: 10 Mar 2009







I would be grateful for any info on the Messenger family. Charles Messenger was my g g g grandad and he was a shoemaker and his address was 30 Manchester Place, Cheltenham on one of the census, but on another it gives 30 Manchester Walk. He had four children, one being George Messenger, my g g grandad. He moved to Redditch and started his own shoe shop. He had 10 children, with Frank being my g grandad. I have loads of info on the Redditch side of the Messenger family, but need more on the Cheltenham side. Can any one help?

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Posted: 2 Mar 2009

Hello John,

There is Chas Messenger in Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858/9 listed under Boot and Shoe Makers, living at 30 Manchester walk. According to Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer Manchester Place was a terrace of 3 houses in Manchester Street or Walk. Manchester Walk was originally an alley about 3ft wide.

Hope this helps.

Alice

Posted: 8 Mar 2009







I'd be grateful for any info relating to the family of Thomas Warner, born about 1807, who in the mid 1800's had a butcher's shop at 346 High Street, Cheltenham. He had numerous children with his wife, Sarah, one of whom was my great, great grandfather, Robert.

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Posted: 25 Feb 2009







In tracing my family history, I found I have relatives born in the nineteenth century in Malswick, Woodmancote, Prestbury, and Hampton. These are all stated as being in "Cleeve", Glos. Can anyone tell me whether Bishop's Cleeve was at one time called only "Cleeve"?

Thanks

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Joy Fisher

Posted: 10 Feb 2009

Hi Joy,

I come from Bishops Cleeve. The locals quite often refer to Bishops Cleeve as just "Cleeve". Woodmancote is the next village along as you go up the hill. Prestbury is the village at the base of the hill. All the places you mention are in the "cleeve" area, they are all in and around Cleeve hill. Woodmancote and Bishops Cleeve are now joined due to housing developement. Bishops Cleeve has a wonderful history website which I expect you have already found. Need more help just ask

Good Luck


Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Sandie,

thank you for your reply but I don't seem to be able to find that website.... Help!

Joy

Posted: 6 May 2009

Hi Joy,

Some usefull websites for you. The library in Bishops Cleeve is lovely and has lots of info on its history. The people working in there are also helpful.

www.imagesofbishopscleeve.info

www.twinmoons.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
village/index.html

www.libraries.gloucestershire.gov.uk/
index.cfm?articleid=6265

www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/
content/articles/2008/04/29/
bishops_cleeve_memories_feature.shtml


Hope this helps. Have fun.


Posted: 8 May 2009

Hi Joy,

According to A History of the County of Gloucester: volume 8, Victoria County History, Cleeve is a hundred. It was named in 1327 as a distinct hundred, comprising the townships of Cleeve, Brockhampton, Cockbury and Wontley, Gotherington, Southam, Stoke Orchard, and Woodmancote. There's a map available at www.british-history.ac.uk.





Alice

Posted: 29 May 2009







There appear to be a number of Fishers in the Cleeve area but I am of course keen to be researching my own family history and not take the wrong turning!!! Any help would therefore be appreciated.

William Fisher married Sarah Hobbs in 1845 at Charlton Kings. He was living at Bishops Cleeve and she was at Charlton Kings at the time. They said they were over 21 when they married (by licence) but a census later suggests that they had been 17 and 19 years. Both their fathers were farmers. William was born in Mawsley, Cleeve. His father was also called William. Sarah was born in Woodmancote. Her father was Thomas Hobbs who was also born in Woodmancote, Cleeve.

They went on to have a number of children including Samuel and Thomas A. at Hampton Cleeve and Edward at Prestbury. Edward is my direct ancestor. Please let me know whether you are related in some way to me!

Thanks

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Joy Fisher

Posted: 9 Feb 2009







My ancestors Edwin Stephens & Matilda Green married in Cheltenham 16/10/1837. Edwin's father: James Stephens. Matilda's father: Joshua Green. Their daughter, Ellen married in Australia. I found them in the 1841 census and then nothing till 1871 census when I think I found Matilda as a widow, living with her dau. Sarah Ann Steward. I can't find anything more on Edwin. Perhaps they came to Australia, but I cannot find any records. I cannot find Edwin's birth c.1817. Anyone researching this line?

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Joan Smith
jatraka@gmail.com

Posted: 6 Feb 2009







Several generations of my husbands family were born and lived in Cheltenham from the mid 1800s. We are extremely interested in any connections with Arthur William Lansdowne (born 1859) who married Mary in 1886. It appears that they had ten children. One of these children was Doris/Dorothy Edith Lansdowne, born 6th September 1898 and died in March 1991, aged 92. Another child, Henry John/James, born in approx 1897 is my husbands father. Any contacts out there?

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Posted: 4 Feb 2009

Hi there,

I knew the Lansdowne family very well and lived alongside them in Pates Avenue for many years. Dorothy looked after her mum and when she (mum) died she continued to live there with her brother. Unable to remember her brothers, there were two bros at one time, and then the one and Dorothy remained a spinster and lived there until she died. She had a sister Joan Roddam and another sister but unable to remember her name. I believe it was surname of Carter. It was from 1950 onwards I think it was 50 number of house area of Pates Avenue around Alstone Lane.

Hope this helps.


Posted: 20 May 2009

Hi,

I also knew the Lansdowne's and the Roddamm's. I think her sister married a Rocket and also lived in Pates Ave. I also lived there (LEACH). In the 1936 street directory there is living at no 50 a Percy Wynn Lansdown. Pates Avenue was built around 1934-35 most of the people moved from the slum clearences of St.Pauls to here.

Hope this helps.


Posted: 22 August 2009

Hello Jane,

Percy Wynn Lansdown was my grandfather. My dad was the youngest of the children. Three sisters and three brothers. I have done quite a lot of research into the Lansdowns. Please email and we can exchange info.


Posted: 7 November 2009







Hi, I am trying to trace the Margrett family tree and have traced it back to Cheltenham in 1810. My ancestor is Charles Margrett born about 1810, I know he married Martha Mann born 1808, and they had 7 children, Charles, Martha Elizabeth, Eliza, Alfred, Henry, Matthew and William, but am struggling to find his brothers and sisters and parents. If anyone has any information i would be really grateful.

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Katherine Margrett
kcplace1978@hotmail.com

Posted: 4 Feb 2009

Hello,

Just looked into this site and saw your message. Haven't looked at my Margrett tree for a while but I have tree going back to 1658, with links to other margrett lines. The Margretts seem to have originated in Deerhurst, nr Tewkesbury. If you would like me to check for your link please let me know and I'll have a look for you in my paperwork. My grandmother was a Margrett and we had relatives in Cheltenham.


Posted: 25 Mar 2009

I noticed your interest concerning the Margrett Family of Deerhurst / Tirley area of Gloucestershire. Researching the Palmer Family Tree My GGG-Grandfather John Palmer 1799 Married a Ann Margreat of Tirley. There seems to be so many different spellings of the name. If you have any information I would be very grateful.


Posted: 26 Mar 2009

The father of Charles Margrett 1809 was Stephen Margrate b.1778 @ Staverton who married Mary Piff 17 FEB 1806 @ Staverton. His father also was Stephen Margrate b. abt 1738 who married Elizabeth Pearce 21 DEC 1763 @ Staverton. These and the descendents of Charles take 4xA4 pages of family tree. Gladly send a copy. Bruce Margrett is member number 461 since 1984 of the Guild of One Name Studies registered for all traces of the name MARGRETT(S) and it's 30 odd varient and devient spellings. Glad to help.


Posted: 28 Mar 2009







Please can anyone give me some info on Nazareth house, Sandford Place, Bath Road as i have found in the 1911 census that my Gran Winifred Richards was lodged there, and would like to know if it was a school of some kind as there are a lot of young girls listed with her at the time. Thank you

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Posted: 29 Jan 2009

Hello Mark,

According to Cheltenham Historical Gazetteer Nos. 1-4 Sandford Place were Nazareth House orphanage which was demolished 1969 after Nazareth House moved to London Road, Charlton Kings.

Hope this helps.


Allan

Posted: 3 Feb 2009

Hi,

I am trying to find a photograph of Nazareth House to put with family tree, as my mum Gwennie Holland lived there from 1927-1936. Can anybody help?

When my mum was at Naz, as it was known, she attended St. Gregory's School which was in St. Paul's area, then it moved to Knapp Road. When mum grew up she used to go back and stand in as cook for 6 weeks and my siblings and myself used to stay, it was like going on holiday.



Posted: 27 Mar 2009

Hi Mark,

I worked in Nazareth house as a teenager. It was then moved to London Road by then. It was a home for the elderly run by Nuns. Hope it helps a little


Posted: 6 May 2009

Charlton Kings Local History Society have just published their 2011 "Research Bulletin", I found an interesting article in there of Nazareth House, illustrated with a very good drawing of the Bath Road Property. You won't get better than this, I have been looking a long time for a photograph myself. The Society does have a website.


Posted: 11 May 2011







Can anyone help - my G.G Grandmother Emma Domney was born in 1838 at 5 Hewletts Rd, Cheltenham. Her father is James Domney, a labourer. Her mother is Jane, late Shipway, formerly Underwood. Any information would be great. Many thanks

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Posted: 24 Jan 2009

I have a Jane UNDERWOOD who married a Henry Thomas GODSELL, they had 7 children and one of whom was a Emily, she was born in Charlton Kings, around 1855. Any connection? Cheers.


Tony James, Canada
tony.james67@shaw.ca

Posted: 18 Oct 2009







I am looking for information regarding William Jessett and his ancestors. William was born in Cheltenham abt 1816, he married (possibly before 1837) Ann Farmer of Westminster. William Jessett was a Linen Draper and Undertaker, he moved to Reading and appears on the Census there. Any information would be appreciated.

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David Stephens
davidfstephens2@aol.com

Posted: 23 Jan 2009

In Phillimore's Gloucestershire Parish Register, there is a marriage of William Jessett and Sarah Major, by license, 4 January 1808, in Cheltenham - could that be your William's father?


Jane

Posted: 30 Jan 2009







The 1911 census shows my Step Grandmother, May Hutchinson Waddy, living at Evesham Lodge, Cheltenham. Her Father was the General Manager of Sharpness/Gloucester docks. Can anyone advise me if Evesham Lodge still exists and where I may find it in Cheltenham. Also, I am interested to know if I can find any information on her Father, being the General Manager, there must be records of him and possibly a photograph. Thank you

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Posted: 21 Jan 2009







I'm trying to find out any information about Famley Lodge in Cheltenham. I have a Winifred Dawson listed as a student boarder, aged 16, in 1901. Thank you

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Beverley Peace
bev.peace@ntlworld.com

Posted: 15 Jan 2009







Hello, I have been buying endless certs, ie birth, marriage, death, in my quest to further family history. I have received a death cert of an ancestor which is witnessed by his son Roderick John Prout of 7 Gwernant Rd, Hatherley, Cheltenham. This is dated 1/4/1975. I would love to know who else lived at that address so that I may be able to follow up those leads and possibly make contact with descendants. Roderick's grandfather was my great grans brother . Thanks

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Posted: 15 Jan 2009







Inquests were held after the deaths of 2 former members of my wife's family. One death (Henry Woodward) was in 1888 at Soudley / Newham: death 3/12/1888, inquest held 8/12/1888. The other (James French) was in 1919, following an accident in the theatre. Any information appreciated.

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Colin Henderson







My Blackwell Family are from Cheltenham and listed in the 1851 Census. George Blackwell m. Mary Barradell and had 5 Children plus adopted one boy. In 1850, the two eldest sons left for Canada, thus, missed the Census. After the Census, the Father and younger son Henry left for New York. They came together again in 1854 in Canada and in 1857 they all went to Minnesota. Their story and history is documented by Lois Clarinda Twichel in her memoirs and expanded in my website. See www.blackwellgenealogy.com. Harper's Directory show George and Mary in their 1844 listing as living at Gothic Cottage, New Sandford Rd.

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Ron Blackwell







I am researching the Yeend family name which I understand was originally from the Ashchurch, Bishops Cleeve and Elmstone Hardwicke areas. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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I have researched Yeend family and live in the Cotswolds; if you would like to contact me, I and my colleague will gladly assist if we can. Best wishes,


Angela


I am researching the Fisher family - and got as far back as William Fisher b1828(ish) in Malswick, Cleeve. In trying to go back further I have found a William Fisher marrying Mary Yeend on 8.12.1804 (Bishops Cleeve marriage) and am wondering whether they could be his grandparents. I don't know whether your research has thrown up anything relevant that you would care to pass on? As always - any information would be greatly appreciated!


Joy Fisher
Posted: 9 Feb 2009


Are you still researching the Yeend family? Yeends from the Gloucestershire area moved to Walla Walla, Washington in 1870. Are you still researching the family?


Sandra Fuller
SFULL5@AOL.COM
Posted: 26 Feb 2009


Hi, I have just stumbled on your request for Yeend info. One of my ancestors (Alfred Doxsey) married a Sarah Yeend 26 Nov 1867 in Cheltenham. I believe she was born about 1847, not sure where, and her father was a Charles Yeend born about 1816 in Cheltenham. Be interested to know if you can fill in any other details!
Regards


Posted: 11 Apr 2009


To Joy Fisher,
I have William Fisher and Mary Yeend in my family tree and if you give me your e-mail address I will contact you.
Regards


Posted: 12 Apr 2009


See you are researching the Yeend family name. Have you had any success with the first lady Angela or any of the others. Had a queer message relating to my son Mark. It said that this particular lady Mary Davies was researching the family name. I wrote to her but she had no knowledge of even knowing about the name or having posted it on the board. She is a relative of Cook(e) whose family originated from Little Swindon and Alstone and were market gardeners. If you are interested, you may be able to help her, as you may have come across her family history somewhere down the track. Her e-mail is mdw1nterbr1dge@googlemail.com

Kind regards


Posted: 25 Feb 2010








Hello, I am looking for any one researching the Webb family of Swindon Village 1800 on, and the Cooper's of Arle and Swindon Village.

Happy hunting,

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I think you will find Webb's and Cooper's still live in Swindon Village. Swindon Village has a very good Local History Society, they have published about 6 journals, they are on this site, under Clubs and Societies, the chairman is Barry Simons, he gives his phone number, I don't know an email for him...

Arle abuts Swindon Village. I have had a quick look through 3 booklets written as a Neighbourhood Project for Hesters Way (which also covers Arle) but did not see the names you are looking for. I trust this is of help, any problems come back to me at any time. (I am responsible for answering email enquiries for Cheltenham Local History Society)









Hello,

I am trying to help a family member in America. She has just received the marriage certificate for the following people. On 1 Oct., 1840: Charles Amsden Profession: shoemaker Residence: Priory Terrace, Cheltenham Father: James Amsden (shoemaker) in the presence of William Powell. and Elizabeth Little Rresidence: Tewksbury (or Stokesbury?) Rd, Cheltenham Father: Edward Little (hay trusser) in the presence of Mary Ann Arkell and Mary Little.

Is there any evidence for these people in Cheltenham in this period? The Amsden family came originally from the Oxfordshire area and it is quite possible that a splinter group found their way into Cheltenham and remained incognito. It was certainly not their usual area, most moving eastward towards Herts and London.

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Peter Amsden

Hi, I am not researching the Amsden family, but the Little's that you mention, are my family. I have the Little tree back to the 1600's if you are interested. Let me know if I can help you with the Little's. Happy hunting, Marlene









Does anyone know anything about this company? They were from Cheltenham and had a hand in building several railway stations. The two owners were Thomas Vernon and Paul Ewens. They both lived in Cheltenham in 1881 but were both living in London by 1891.

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I have done quite a bit of research into the Central Ironworks, which was Vernon & Ewens company in Cheltenham. The contracts that they won, both locally and nationally, were quite impressive, including the new Hammersmith suspension bridge over the Thames, designed by Sir Joseph Bazalgette.

I have been trying to find information into how and why the company folded, having only found a few details in our local press. I would also like to know whether the firm actually completed the contract for the Hammersmith bridge, or whether the work was handed on to another firm as it is around the time that they went bust. Would be happy to share/give any information.



Posted: 13 Jan 2009







I am aware that my 3 x Great Grandfather, William Russell married a lady named Hannah Webb at Painswick in 1816. I do not have anything to back this up though. As far as I am aware William was born in or around Ledbury in 1787. Could anyone give me any help as to whether this is the case or not? I know from the little family history that I have, the Russells started out in Oxfordshire in the early 1700's and slowly moved through Gloucestershire to Malvern and then to Ledbury. Apart from my fathers side of the family I seem to have hit a brick wall in the late 1800's. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

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I am very new to geneology and have only just started but I do have a Fanny Maria Russell, born 1828-1917, who married my Great Grandfather John Holder, born 1803-1900, Bredon Hardwicke. Fanny was born in Snowshill. They had 6 children in all: John, Albert Henry, Richard, Elizabeth Sarah Ann and William. Fanny or Frances is buried at Stanway Church together with her son John and daughter Sarah. Her husband John Holder is buried at Bishops Cleeve church. They lived at Paper Mill Farm House, Stanway. This is all I have at the moment and maybe not any use to you but it's worth a try. Good luck in your quest, its really addictive isn't!

Regards









We have a watercolour painting of Dante's Wine Bar/Bistro in Cheltenham. Possibly from the 1970's. It would be interesting to know the history of the place and what happened to it after it was sold. Is it still there and called somethine else or was it knocked down?

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Vanessa Pritchard







Would anyone have information on my Lawrance family. The spelling I have is Lawrance some records appear to have the spelling Lawrence. The family was known in the States for having a great greenhouse and nursery business. My Great great Grandfather was Thomas Lawrance. Our family records start with a Thomas Lawrance b. Jul 7, 1777. His wife was Reba or Rebecca. They had many children including Richard Lawrance. Richard married Mary. I believe that her maiden name was Leake. They too had many children. Their son Thomas as I mentioned before was my GGGrandfather. His wife was Mary Pryor from Launceston, Cornwall. He had a son John and a grand daughter Mary. My records list Thomas as emigrating to Montreal On. around 1857. He then moved to Kingston On. and married Mary. They moved to Ogdensburg, New York, US around 1860. Newspaper articles list him as growing up in Cheltenham, UK.

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Ted Faluszczak
faluszczak@verizon.net







I am trying to locate more information about the following family members and the place: Timothy Sadler married Margaret ? Son James Sadler, married Susanna Boyce.
Children:
Timothy Sadler christened Dec 1801, Richard Sadler christened Nov 1807.
Richard Sadler married Mary Bryan June 1840 at the Parish of Charlton Kings Children: Eliza Sadler born 1841 at Andnell, Sarah Sadler born 1847 and Mary Sadler 1849 2 Hamilton Cottages, Charlton Kings. Also lived at 4 Park Street and 2 London Road, Charlton Kings.

Where is Andnell - is it spelt correct? I would like to visit this place some day soon but would like to know more....if you can help, look forward to hearing from you. Thanks

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Karen Ericksen
kiwikaz74@yahoo.com







I was in Cheltenham in 1952, my name was Carol Ann Couzens, my family's name was Peters (grandparents) and Couzens (also grandparents). My grandparents lived in Reform Cottage, Presbury, Cheltenham before they both died and were buried in Presbury church yard. They were buried with Emma and William Kitchen. My other grandparents also lived in Cheltenham. I have papers to say they were related to them but I don't know how. I have aunties and uncles still in Cheltenham - it would be so nice to find them.

My grandparents are Rose Couzens and grandad was Horace William Couzens. Emma Kitchen died 12/10/16 and her husband was William Kitchen (died 27/3/20). My mum was Joyce b. Peters, then Couzens, then Adlam. My dad was Leslie Horace couzens, he died 28/3/1985. I'm looking for all my family tree going back into 1916, can you help please.

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Hello, I have been briefly trying to find out the oringal name of my cottage in Fairview Street, with no luck so far. I believe it was built around 1810-1825, do you know of any old maps which might have details of house names? It's number 25 which is set back off the road (unlike the terraced houses in the street) which makes me wonder if it was older and one of the first to be built.

Thanks in advance

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James Beezley

I've had a look back on the Censuses and in 1851 there is a Vine Cottage on Fairview Street.


Margaret

Posted: 12 Mar 2009

Hi,

There are indeed old maps. If you can get to Cheltenham Public Library, so much the better. There is one in particular issued by the post office that lists all the cottages etc in the area from that era. There is a Pine Cottage (qV on the Post Office map). You could also try "googling" old maps.co.uk. I had good luck doing this myself. But back to possibly your cottage: Just off Fairview Road, a little ways into Trinity Lane (close to the big Holy Trinity Church) was a little cottage called Pine Cottage. It is no longer there but if you look at a modern map, it would have been found behind what is now MultiYork furniture store on Portland Street and Warwick Place just off Fairview Road. I also have an interest in this area as I had people once living in Pine Cottage as well.

Good luck.



Posted: 22 Jun 2009

Hi,

I lived in 58 Fairview Street for 20 years (1952 - 1972) and on the deeds of the house all the land in that area was owned by the Earl of Sherborne. You may be able to find out more from either your deeds or from an original old map of the area. I remember you and your parents living in the street.


Liz Green (nee James)
lizalgreen@hotmail.co.uk

Posted: 7 May 2010







Does anyone have any information on the Barrett family who lived in Cheltenham in the late 1700s. Anthony Barrett was married to Mary. They had 6 children - Harriet, Eliza, Edward, John, and 2 others. They were all born from 1797 -1811. He died in 1815 and the family went to live in Chelsea, London. I understand there was a Barrett's Mill in Cheltenham and wondered if there was any connection. Anthony Barrett was a plasterer and it seems that many of the family also had this occupation.

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Hello there,
Can some kind person tell me if Park Street cottage is still standing as my grandmother Elizabeth Higgs was born there in 1856, her parents were Thomas Higgs/Elizabeth Alsop who later lived in Higgs cottages, Alstone. The family later moved to Birmingham. Any information would be greatly appreciated and a photograph would be super.

Thank you

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I am trying to find out more about Edwin Miles, born 1866 - lived in Prestbury Rd, Cheltenham. The last record I have for him is 1943 his wife was called Emma (Bastin) and they had three children William E Miles 1894, Gladys M Miles 1896 and Doris E Miles 1899. I can't find any more details about them either. If anyone can help that would be wonderful!

Thanks Carole

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Looking for any info on the Edwards family of Charlton Kings. Starting with William Edwards, born abt. 1771 in Gloucestershire. His son was Robert Edwards, a plasterer, born abt. 1809 in Charlton Kings. Have managed to go forward from Robert but need to go back from William.

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Debbie

I am stuck with a David Edwards, marrying in Chedworth in 1812. Have you any record of this name? Thank you!



Posted: 13 April 2010

Sorry, I don't have a David Edwards.



Posted: 16 April 2010







Trying to find Charles Robert Pooles family, my nanas family. Charles was born abt. 1880 and married in 1899 Rose Selwyn. Can you help. My nana Doris Rose Poole was born 09/09/1899 at Poulton.

P.S. Send all replies to my email address direct, thank you.

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Hello all,

My great grandmother was Annie Caroline Trotman JOHNS (nee ELY). She came to Australia, married Thomas JOHNS, lived W.A, + vic and died 1955. I have her death cert, it says born Gloscestershire, about 1870. But that's about all I know about her.

I'm pretty sure this family below is the right one, please let me know if it is incorrect. ---

1881 census - Nth Cerney, Glos.,
Annie Trotman ELY, age 2, born Calmsden. c.1879
parents Richard Trotman ELY, age 38, Farmer, born glos c. 1843, he is in Cheltenham in 1901 census, married Ellen Jane, in 1877.
Ellen ELY, age 33 / 38, born Nth Cerney, c. 1848
Annie's sister Ellen Maria ELY, age 6, born Cheltenham, c. 1875
Annie's brother, Richard ELY, age 8, born Charlton Kings

Until now I haven't been able to confirm Annie's parents, and I can't find much info, England or Australia. Any info always greatly appreciated.

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Can any one help with a marriage for William Frankham, I have hit a brick wall with this one. Have found a Christening for a son Henry Grove Frankham 10/07/1810 Cirencester but no marriage for his parents. Also trying to find any siblings, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Anne-Marie, South Australia
samplumb3@hotmail.com







I would like to have contact with anyone researching the Musty surname in Gloucestershire. I can share information as have started a one name study for the county.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz

Hi, The only link I have to the Musty family is that Elizabeth Yeend who was a sister of my direct ancester John Yeend married William Musty b.1700 and they had a daughter Ann Musty born 1730 who married John Leech. If any of this information is of interest to you perhaps you would e-mail me and maybe I can fill in a few gaps in my tree. glynyeend@talktalk.net


Posted: 27 August 2010







I am looking for details of a building known as Rutland House in Cheltenham. In 1838 William Hughes and his wife Mary Anne lived there with their children and later documentation indicates he owned it. Can anyone explain to me how English property titles work please? Is there any way I can confirm who did own this place in 1838 and when it was sold?

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When you search the databases on this website, in Slater's Commercial Directory of Cheltenham, 1858-1859 you can find this entry:

Beach Hnry, Rutland House, Regent place

Hope this helps with your research.

Alice

Thank you Alice - it has me going again,


Posted: 5 Jan 2009

Hi Gillian, I don't know much about the early ownership of Rutland House, but I do know that my ancesters lived there in about 1891 and may have been there until early 1906. However I don't know if they owned the property or not. Will check my documentation and see if I have any more info on the house itself... As one of the other researchers suggest it might be worth checking other Directories for early dates.


Posted: 13 Jun 2009







I have hit a brick wall with my family research. I am trying to find the Christening and Marriage of William Colley. According to the 1841 and 1851 censuses, he was born in Badg(e)worth about 1798 and he was married to Rebecca born about 1799 in Westerleigh. In the Badgeworth baptism of 1811 for Sept. 1st it states, 'Thomas and Henry, Sons of William and Sarah Whithorn. Jn Son of Robt & Mary Hopton also Wm Col(l)ey.' I can only assume this is him. Any assistance much appreciated.

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I am trying to trace Dr Paul Pearce DAVIES who is related to me on my Dursley and Cheltenham SUMMERS line. I corresponded with him several years ago but have had no reply to my last letter. Unfortunately I cannot recall his last address. He has written a book on the Church in Great Yarmouth in the last year or two so must be alive. Does anyone know where he lives now?

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz

You could try asking the local paper, The Gloucestershire Echo if they could help with your search. contact features: features@glosmedia.co.uk good luck

Donna

Posted: 22 Jun 2010







Is anyone able to tell me what years the following photographers were in business please. 1) JOYNER 2) DIGHTON STUDIO I am trying to date some photos from the family of my GGGrandmother Emma SUMMERS whose father was Henry SUMMERS baker of the High Street Cheltenham.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz

Hello Sandi,

I don't know when you posted your request but I've just discovered this site and your request for info on photographers. Two of my ancestors were early photographers and I found the following site(s) very useful - I have checked and the names you mention are listed. There was a John Joyner, Photographer in Cheltenham and Richard Dighton (Junior) also had a studio in Cheltenham. More information can be obtained from www.cartedevisite.co.uk and its sister site www.victorianphotographers.co.uk which will give you addresses and dates of operation etc. They will send you any info they have for a small charge. Hope this is helpful.

Kind regards


Posted: 25 Feb 2010







I would like to contact anyone researching the Summers surname. I have a lot of information in addition to my own line which is Henry SUMMERS m. to Sarah POWELL and their 5 daughters. Emma b. 1840 married DELVES Eliza b. 1841 - did she marry? Harriet b 1843 married Alfred George HUNT Louisa b 1848 - did she marry? Martha b 1850 - did she marry? Any contact with relatives would be welcome.

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Sandi Halling
sandih@maxnet.co.nz







Be quick, I'm on my last legs. One line entry from Bishop's Transcripts: Cheltenham - 21/12/1803 William son of Willm and Mary Hays. The baby William can be traced 1832 onwards. He awarded himself a middle name "Arkley" or "Arteley". Doesn't appear to be his mother's name - must have come from somewhere. He turned up as a gardener in the Lake District. Anything at all - which church, banns etc.

Any clues whatsoever as to who Willm and Mary were. William and Mary's were very common. Two possibles are one at Eastington 23/5/1790 (Evans) and the other William Hey and Mary Morgan, St. Michaels, Bristol, 2/11/01. Happy days

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Researching REA, RICHEY, BONNOR, STABLE, KELLER 1800 onward. Looking for living relatives.

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Our Ancestor Richard Surman moved to Tredington, Gloucestershire in 1543. Through DNA we know he is directly related to William S*rm*n of Eldersfield, Worcestershire who leased land there in 1480. We are particularly interested in the Surmans of Cheltenham. Our earliest record is of a marriage of Thomas to Joyce Malty in 1792 in Tewkesbury whose son James married Ann Hawker in 1833 and lived in Cheltenham. Our FH website can be found at www.msurman.freeserve.co.uk/www.

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I have a Harriet SURMAN who married one of my cousins, John Rogers KEARSEY at Cheltenham in 1850. However, she was born at Great Washbourne, Gloucestershire to John SURMAN and Mary SURMAN nee Unknown. From my research it appears that her father came from Beckford, Hereford and Worcester.

Don Cameron
sluggan@gmail.com

Hello Don,

Harriet is my husband's gt*aunt. The children were all born to John's first wife - Harriet, nee Taylor of Bishops Cleeve. Mary, John's second wife, is buried in St. Benets Churchyard, Kemerton. If you view our web site you will see direct lineage for Harriet back to Richard born c.1520. Some years ago we had contact with a family of researchers in Ilford who are descended from Harriet & John Rogers Kearsey. If you want to know more contact me direct. Thanks for posting.








Does anyone have any information on William Henry JAMES, eldest son of William JAMES. William Henry was born in Portsea, Hants. 1882. Moved back to Cheltenham with his parents around 1882/3. Worked with his father in the Blacksmith buisness untill his late teens. Believe he married a Ellen STUBBS, Sept. 1904. Worked as a gardener in the Leckhampton area, am told he divorced around 1920's and moved to Gravesend, Kent. Any information would by greatly appreciated on this elusive Great Uncle.

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Just posting change in e-mail address. Please reply to tony.james67@shaw.ca

Thanks.


Posted: 18 Oct 2009







I am researching Early Settlers to Carterton District here in New Zealand, one family from Cheltenham area, was Walter Francis and his sister Louise, Walter married Fanny Bonython, Louise married William Skey. Walter Francis was born 1837, came to NZ in 1850s. Anyone looking for more information on this family, I can possibly assist, and put them in touch with descendants. Walter, we believe, had a brother William, if anyone can help either way, I look forward to hearing from you.

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Two of my ancestors were sent from Radnorshire to orphanages in Cheltenham, one boy and one girl, Thomas and Mary Ann Probert. They were on the 1881 census, but I can find no record of them thereafter. I'd be grateful for any info on the orphanages - who sponsored the children, where they went to work once they left etc.

Thanks

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I think I have found the boy THOMAS back home in Wales on 1891 census with the family
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4566; Folio 7; Page 5; GSU roll: 6099676.









I am trying to make contact with Wade's in Cheltenham from our family.

James Thomas Wade married Emily Lovesey (M) 1859

Children:

---- James Thomas (b) 1860 Is our Grandfather came to Australia and Married. Only one of family come to Aust.
---- Henry Alfred (B) 1864 after married lived Stroud.
---- Frederick William (b) 1861
---- Francis Eugene Lovesey (b) 1865 (d) 1866
---- Emily Elizabeth Lovesey ( 1866)
---- Orlando Percival Godolphin (b)1869
---- Sidney Curtis (b) 1871 was in Salvation Army after Marriage
---- Christiana Gertrude ( b) 1873
---- Lewis Parker (b) 1875 lived Birmingham area after marriage
---- Mary Ada ( b) 1882

Would love to make contact with one of family ancestors in England to help us with family history.

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Margaret Wade
wade11@kooee.com.au







Henry DEVEREUX Junior: 1901 census: Henry Devereux, 31, b. London, house painter, St. Mary's Civil Parish. Also at St. Mary's was an Esther, 36, and Florence, 5, both b. Cheltenham. Marriage: Sep. qtr., 1893, 6a/807 to Esther Mills.

No birth for Florence in Free online BMD's. Best prospect for Esther Mills: Esther Elizabeth Mills, b. Tetbury, December qtr., 1860; daughter of Thomas J. and Caroline Mills; 1871 census: in Highbury, Finsbury, Islington, 15 Leuwen Road (Sue Teakle, UK); Thomas was a plasterer; 1881 census: at 20 Lowman Road, Holloway, London; siblings Lucy E. 15, and Maria W. 8, both b.Islington. Thomas 40, b. Gloucester; Caroline 40, b. Cheltenham as was Esther Elizabeth 20. Possible age transcription error, 1901 census (should have been 41 if correct Esther?).

Parents marriage in online BMD's: Thomas Jonothan Mills m. Caroline/Elizabeth/Caroline Hall, Pancras, London, 1858. Must have returned to Cheltenham for Elizabeth Esther's birth registration, then back to London. Best prospect marriage: Florence Devereux to Devonshire, St. Albans, Hertfordshire, 1914, aged 19 years?

Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand








HARRIET DEVEREUX, school teacher;Cheltenham family:

Harriet not found after 1851 census. All marriages, 1851-1880 checked against 1881 census records. There is a marriage for Harriet Devereux, June qtr., 1876, Gloucester, 6a/520, to John Thomas Knight? There is a John Thomas Knight, chr. Temple, Bristol, Gloucestershire, son of James and Ann, November 1, 1835? He had a sister Mary, chr. February 18, 1838? Not found in 1881 British census. Gloucester is a few miles west of Cheltenham.

There is a death for a Harriet Knight, 44, Wheatenhurst, December qtr., 1883, 6a/192? Not found in 1881 census as Harriet Devereux; US census 1880; Canadian census 1881; Australian (NSW/Victorian Immigration records); 1893 New Zealand Electoral Roll.

Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand








My wife is a NSW-born Devereux descendant of a large Cheltenham family, 1800-1900 at least. An Emma D. was married to Joseph Halliwell whose family had the Red Lion public house there for many years. However, Joseph died in the early 1890's and Emma seems to disappear - not found in the 1901 census or cemetery records. I have a wealth of information on both families and happy to share. Any assistance appreciated.

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Les and Gloria Hewett
Napier, New Zealand


Vic Cole has researched the landlords/landladies of the Red Lion in Cheltenham, and has asked me to forward this information to you.
1855 - Joseph Hallawell (Halliwell)
1856 - Mrs A. Hallawell
1859 - 1890 Mrs Charlotte Hallawell
1890 - 1892 Joseph Hallawell
1892 - Emma Hallawell
1892 - 94 Daniel William, Augustus Workman

Trust it is of help.



Posted: 4 Mar 2009







A sad occurence brought the QUINEY family to Cheltenham. Originating in Stratford upon Avon, Rebecca, Lydia, Job and Edmund arrived in Cheltenham prior to 1841. Rebecca married William Langston and set up home in Prestbury, Edmund married Mary Pritchard and lived in Prestbury near the Beehive Inn, Job married Elizabeth Howells and emigrated ain 1849 to Australia and Lydia, still a single lady went to Australia to find her brother in 1852. Neither returned to England. I am descended from Edmund and would be pleased to hear from anyone else researching the name. I have most, but not all, of the family back to around 1733, as I have been researching for eight years.

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William LANGSTON was a cordwainer and lived in Mill Street, Prestbury. He had three sons, William, Harry and Arthur. William Snre died in 1864 and the family moved from Prestbury, Rebecca, his wife going to live in Leckhampton as a nurse to a family of confectioners. All sons had children, but William, Harry and Arthur had all died by 1900, however, their mother, Rebecca, lived until 1901, and died at the age of 90. Interested in contact with anyone having LANGSTON ancestors.

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I am interesting in contact with anyone researching the DUNFORD name in Cheltenham. My DUNFORD family seem to have been the only family of that name in 1851 and earlier. They were in Cheltenham from at least 1826 until 1833, then Leckhampton.

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Researching William JAMES, born 1854 Swansea, Wales. married Mary Jane GODSELL, Jan.02, 1879 at The Registry Office, Cheltenham.

William and Mary Jane had 8 children,
      William Henry, b. 1882,
      Arthur Ernest, b.1884,
      Alice Louise, b.1885,
      Kate Louisa, b. 1887,
      Albert John, b.1888,
      Frances D., b. 1890,
      Muade, b. 1893,
      Harold Douglas, b. 1895.

William was a Blacksmith and believe he had a forge at 6 Sun Street, Cheltenham. He was my Great Grandfather. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Hello Tony,

I don't know whether you noticed this photo on the internet from Cheltenham Art Gallery collections of Sun Street.



It's 59-60 Sun Street, the smaller building on the left houses toilets. Sun Street still exists but these houses have been demolished in the 1920s. You can find more information about this area on this page.








Hi, I am researching my ancestors John Palmer and his wife Mary Palmer, formerly Ballinger, nee Craddock. John was born in Marylebone, Middlesex abt. 1792 and Mary was born in Winchcombe abt. 1794.

Their children are...
      John, b. abt. 1827
      George, b abt. 1828
      William, b abt. 1832
      Eliza, b. abt. 1833
      Mary, b. abt.1836

I look forward to hearing from anybody who has these people in their tree.

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Ann Palmer-Steel, Brisbane Australia
anniepannie3@yahoo.com.au

Hello there,

Just came across your request re the Palmer/Ballinger family. I know both those names are in my husbands family, I would have to look it up and let you know. Not sure how old your request is and if you would still like any information? Please let me know.

Kind regards



Posted: 12 Jun 2010







I am researching Richard Warren born c1808 married Elizabeth Painter 13 Oct 1833 and then Mary Ann Rice 19th June 1836, I am trying to find who his Father was, can anyone help.!

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I'm researching George J. Pearce, born 1870 in Cheltenham. His father Thomas Pearce was a cabinet maker. I would like to get in touch with anybody researching this surname in Cheltenham.

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Hi Jane,

I too am researching the Pearce name in Cheltenham most likely from the dates of 1820 until 1910. My descendent is Benjamin Walter Pearce (1831 - 1899) who owned and operated a Builders Merchant near St. Georges St. in the late 1800s. I have a great deal of info about BWP, but would like to learn more about the rest of his family and his father Joseph Griffiths Pearce and mother Jane Wheeler. Would be interested in sharing info.



Posted: 8 Jun 2009







Hello, searching for Arthur Walter Clarke, born 1854 in Cheltenham. In 1881 he is unmarried in Calstock, Cornwall. Can anybody help to find his parents?

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Hello, I am looking for more information about Charles and John Ball, sons of Peter and Lucy Ball, born in Cromwell or Cromwell Common (could it be Cromhall?), Gloucestershire (John in 1825, Charles in 1833). By 1841 the family moved to New Brinsley, Nottinghamshire. If anybody is connected to this family please contact me, I would be very much interested in finding out more about their Gloucestershire roots.

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Thank you for putting your family on the web site. In a way they are my family, too, as I am descended from Charles' second wife's sister, Mary Gill Bamforth. You have solved a mystery for me....how Charles and Emma came to have children before they married! Thanks


 



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